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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 6:26 pm

Hi, so I sea lots of people talking about amaranth and trying to find it in the lore and whatever. I gooled it and all i got was red flowers and I mean I guess I asaw lots of red flowrs in skyrim but I was wondering wother or not this amarnth business wa consdiered cannon by bethseda

if not were does this flower stuff come from anyway?

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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 6:22 pm

That's cute

EDIT: Sorry, even if a possible troll, I should probably be a good lorumite and jump the bait eitherway:

Amaranth, the flower you see upon googling, is a plant that holds a immortality symbolism in various mythologies related to it.

Amaranth in Elder Scrolls, serving as the "step above" the CHIM state, very similar to reaching Moksha and entering Nirvana (Hindu philosophy)

In Hindu philosophy, this includes becoming one with Brahman(not a superhero like Batman), the everything. Elder Scrolls universe has a similarity of Brahman, called The Godhead, an entity which too is everything and nothing else.

Reaching Amaranth is when a "person" with CHIM enters total isolation. When there is nothing but you, you are all there is - thus a new Godhead. Reaching Amaranth is this transition, leaving behind the previous everything, to become new everything. Although every single of the previous used terms becomes muddy, vague and ambiguous as soon as we go with CHIM.

The flower Amaranth and the state Amaranth may be sorta connected via this symbolism - especially upon realising that they both mean "Immortality"

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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 11:41 am

It's quasi-canon; it was invented by former Beth employee Michael Kirkbride and relates to certain things in-game (read the 36 Lessons of Vivec in Morrowind). It's deep stuff, and probably no one except maybe MK understands it completely. http://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/s14ew/the_amaranth/ might help.

Amaranth is also the name of a species of RL flower, so that is why that would show up in your search results.

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Post » Fri May 24, 2013 5:46 pm

Canon is meaningless. It's part of the lore, which is more important.

It has to do with the metaphysics of Tamriel. You see, The Aurbis (since you're new I'll just tell you that is the name of the entire universe of the series) is in fact an eternally fragmenting superconsciousness of God, starting from Anu and Padomay and eventually spiraling down to each and every mite of dust, mortal being, immortal being drop of water, everything. CHIM is maintaining your individual personality despite the realization at your very core that you are a fragment of something so great as to be beyond your understanding. (failure to do this is zero-summing, when you stop being an individual and fade back into the whole, see also conventional death for the Dunmer ((maybe))). Amaranth is to go even further beyond, to the best of my understanding it is to realize the nature of the universe, say :[censored] this I'm not doing it," leaving the Aurbis and making a new one.

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