First Thread and Poll- http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1463251-elves-vs-nords-thalmor-talos-ysgramor/

The last thread is prone to post limit locking pretty soon, so this one is up when it gets locked on a few minutes...

It doesn't matter if he knew or not then, because it could be argued that he didn't know. But it can't be argued that he doesn't know that the Thalmor are completely and wholly powerless now. They can do absolutely nothing without the Empire's assistance and the Empire knows it. The Empire chooses to continue to be the Thalmor's tool in the destruction of the alliance of men and that is why the Empire is undeserving of any fealty or loyalty.

Do we really need a second one of these in all honesty?

The last one can be summarised as circle-jerk arguing with a healthy dose of ignorant bias.

That's what it's all about anyways lol

No one deserves loyalty or Fealty.

Thalmor: They are nothing but evil monsters.

Empire: they can't do a thing about anything. No matter what people say.

Stormcloaks: They may be the best option, but Ulfric shows that he CAN kill anyone that gets in the way of his ambitions, whatever those may be. THAT does not mean he would, though.

Evgir unslaad...

Rinik Vahzah

Y'know, I think the leaders of the Aldmeri Dominion/Thalmor are actually Vampires.