upon fighting miraak he reveals that harkon and "the others" wanted him to deal with alduin and that he chose otherwise but who are these "others" he's refering to?

it might have been harkon ?

Could be Harkon's court or Other dangers to skyrim.

but what connects miraak with harkon? I looked up "hakon" and he's one of the heros in sovngard, so that makes more sense..still I wish I remembered what miraak actually said

Others = Gormlaith and Felldir the Old.

if he said "hakon", I agree that makes the most sense

He did say Hakon. He and the others (who Hev mentioned) wanted Miraak to join them to defeat Alduin. As we can see, that wasn't the case.

That's what he said, HAKON.

Harkon wasn't even born at that time yet.

Dude, Miraak is ancient. Like Merethic/First Era. I think he predates vampirism. Harkon wasn't even a sperm cell.

thanks dude

still alduin is a present threat, doenst matter when harkon was born