Jyggalag was freed now what

Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:19 am

Since jyggalag was freed in the Oblivion DLC Shivering Isles, what do you think the other Daedric Princes will do? My other main question is can Jyggalag be cursed again by the other princes, and if Jyggalag knew every event that has happened, is happening, and will happen shouldn't he have know the other princes would turn on him?

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Katie Samuel
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:56 pm

Will he be cursed again? I doubt it. Not only will it be stupid and boring on Beth's part, but just because Jyggy is stubborn, does not mean he's stupid.

My take on it: He's been rebuilding his realm very meticulously. He's severely OCD, so it explains why it's taking him 200 years to do so. He's got to get it just right. He also needs to reach out to a few mortals who think along the lines he does for worship and what-not. With worship and belief, he will gain the necessary power to manifest on Nirn through a shrine, avatar, etc. The only trick is gathering the power to reach out to that mortal champion who will have the leadership and tenacity to usher forth a cult.

I also have a theory that the Thalmor are actually run by a secret cult of Jyggalag worshipers. If you or anyone else is interested:

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Consider this: Crystal-like-Law is destroyed, Altmer are desperate. Jyggalag is freed from Sheo around the same time the Thalmor are formed. Who is Jyggalag? Their Knight in CRYSTAL armor. Wink, wink. It would explain their extreme view on their corrupted version of true anuisim. Jyggalag is the extreme end of perfect order.

That and it gives Jyggalag solid involvement in the next TES

The whole Jyggalag-Sheogorath thing was a mirror image of Auri-El/Lorkhan.

Jyggalag represents Auri-El of Anui-El. Sheogorath represents Lorkhan of Sithis.

Jyggalag is the Crystal God. His Knights are crystal constructs, and they came from crystalline obelisks during the Greymarch. A lot of crystals there. Now take into consideration Crystal-Like-Law. A literal crystalline tower that housed all of the Aldmeri culture that kept the Altmer, well "pure" and true to their ways even in the harshest of times.

Oblivion crisis happens and the Daedra completely raze the tower to the ground. Around the same time, the Oblivion crisis ends, Jyggalag is freed. Thalmor are formed. Now I'm not saying they were Jyggy cultists at first... but they likely caught his attention(or he caught their attention) and thus a connection was made. The crystalline Daedra, hated by his Daedric brethren happens to be the one Daedra these crazy Altmer can relate with, and he also just so happens to represent crystals...

His sphere and methods no doubt seduced them, and they likely see him as their fallen champion renewed, or something along those lines. So now we have the Thalmor in full force 100 years later, trying to achieve their goal of perfect order and Stasis, which fits in nicely with Jyggy's sphere of order and cold logic.

Jyggalag could in theory, benefit from this. Mundus is chaos, and in mythology, men are the children of Lorkhan who is chaos. Destroying that and unbinding the Dragon would lead to permanent Stasis.

Assuming it all works of course, but I doubt we'll find out... Doesn't mean Jyggy and the Thalmor won't try. Or perhaps the Thalmor seek to use Jyygalag as a means. If the Thalmor are destined to fail then Jyggalag would predict this. So why go along with it? Jyggy is smarter than he looks. He like-wise sees the Thalmor as a means to his end. Through their vigorous worship and enactment of his sphere, he gains power from the whole ordeal. Whether the Thalmor fail or not is irrelevant to him. either way, he gains the necessary influence to manifest on Nirn the same way the other Principalities do. And now he can work on his obsession with Order on the Arena where it's fair game. Instead of pissing off the other Princes again.

I think this would be an excellent and interesting way to not only add more dynamics to the Thalmor, but also segue into Jyggy's lore and fully flesh him out as a Daedric Prince. It would give him involvement.

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Taylah Illies
 
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Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:57 am

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/arden-sul-1

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Benito Martinez
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:30 pm

I don't like it, but if Jygg doesn't show up in the next game I'm gonna have to with Lady N's theory.

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Alycia Leann grace
 
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Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:44 am

...Mind... BLOWN. :dead:

Great read. :tops:

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Chris Duncan
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:54 pm

http://www.imperial-library.info/node/2234

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Sarah Bishop
 
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Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:43 am

I liked that interview, but was it written by a Bethesda employee? Or was it one of MK's works?

I'm not trying to discredit MK, just saying that Bethesda seems to include certain parts of his writing as part of the ES universe since he left the team.

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Nomee
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:48 pm


Kurt Kuhlmann and Bruce Nesmith, both of whom still work for Bethesda.
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Nicole Kraus
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:16 pm

it says at the top that it's Beth developers.

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CHANONE
 
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Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:47 am

Same here, which is why I'm more than a little disappointed that Jyggy didn't show up at all in Skyrim.

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Ruben Bernal
 
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Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:28 am

wow, thats an amazing Theory,

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Life long Observer
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:53 pm

Sorry, I only say that the sources said it was by "various sources".

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neil slattery
 
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Post » Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:51 pm

I don't recall exactly who was involved but I was present when it was originally released and it was by active Bethesda devs, I think.

In any case, my personal interpretation is that Jyggalag wasn't so much cursed as became Sheogorath when Lorkhan introduced free will into the mix by having the world created. His mind was so broken he became a fundamentally different god.

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Avril Louise
 
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Post » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:39 am

But he filled his library with predictions of post-creation mortal actions, including those that we still debate the meaning of.

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