Potema Empress? : V - Skyrim

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:16 am

Potema was one of the most despised rulers of the Era, and her rule resulted in a civil war. Who on Tamriel would grant her legitimacy?

Also, High Rock opposed her rule and fought against her, so why would the province fall in behind her?

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:50 pm

She would have a stronger claim than most people alive, but that doesn't mean she'd ever be made Empress.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:09 am

If She was able to revive Herself in Her body, People would support Her. She is still a Septim, and clever enough to use Talos as a Standard to gather an Army behind. Even as a Lich Queen, She would be a force to be reckoned with. Think about screenshots by Hevnoraak with hundreds of Draugr assaulting Towns in Cyrodill, that is what She could do as an Undead. As a living and breathing Queen, She has that as leverage. She would not need it in the current Political Climate, and She would not need to bring it up as a bargaining chip.

The Bretons supporting Her would depend on the current makeup of the Elder Council. If Bretons feel the Elder Council is not willing to support them, Potema is a Daughter of High Rock.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 9:40 am

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1) If that was so the Heir could have arranged a much easier set up for the assassination, which would have been more Likely to succeed. if it was his Heir that had the plan he could of made the set up much Easier then they pointlessly drawn out one it became. for example He would have been able to get the Assassin Access into the Imperial Palace if such was the case, or had one of His Servants kill him after he requested an Audience about

2) not a problem in TES, we have reports of some Monarchs taking the Throne at the age of 10

3) Unpopular in Skyrim, but we have reports that he was well respected to a degree in other parts of the empire, like the Niben and Colovia.

4) Not likely, the only member of the Elder Council that would work close enough to the Emperor for that to be a possibility is the High Chancellor.

5) Once again, if it was a Thalmor plot it would have been much easier to set up, and would not have been as such a risk. thus is how Political Assassinations, or Assassinations by close family worked in the Dark Ages. the Thalmor Could have arranged for a Diplomatic meeting (perhaps about "assisting with the Civil War in Skyrim"), and had him killed on the Journey, stabbed in the back during the meeting, or even have someone kill him in his sleep at whatever castle/palace was being used for the meeting (as such Locations were usually "Neutral ground", and would be easy to set up an assassination atempt in).

Especially 1&5, if those were the cases, the entire plan to arange it would not have been so pointlessly drawn out.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:02 pm

I wouldn't of supported her. But I guess her undead and vampire hordes would of made it hard for the legion.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:23 am

It would be fun to see the thalmor pee in their pants if she got any real political power though.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:13 pm

"Power resides where men believe it resides. It's a trick; a shadow on the wall."

Potema would not be Empress if she came back from the dead because the Empire and its people would not accept her as such.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:37 am

Not all TES events are Canon as 2 certain people being mentioned during Dragonborn DLC would have died and have no role in the quest lines as

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Falx Carius would have died by the Werewolf Bloodskaal and Neloth by a member of the Mages guild

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» Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:11 pm

Unfortunately I don't think the people would have much choice in the matter. She was able to bring the Empire to it's knees (or at least make it bleed more than most could in a civil war) in life; as a liche she would be even more powerful. Potentially Mannimarco-before-godhood powerful. Being resurrected in a land engaged in a civil war certainly helps her cause as well.

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Of course, we nix her and her cult's plans thoroughly though so it is a moot point, I suppose.

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 7:40 am

You make a spoiler tag by [xspoilerx]then type in here what You want to say[/xspoilerx] take out the x's and it becomes a

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then type in here what You want to say

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:48 am

I'll reiterate.....

She made the empire take a knee when she was human, there was little to nothing the empire could do about it. Now that she's a lich ( for lack of a better term) what makes people think that she couldn't retake the thrown? Why would she need supporters? She didn't when she was a human and she wont as a lich. If anything she would slaughter the now ruling royal family and retake her place on the thrown and then all of Skyrim would pay, hell I would say all of the empire would pay.

You nay sayer's keep on saying that without support she couldn't take the thrown. I'll be the first to take a knee to my new queen, out of fear of my life. :bowdown:

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 4:16 pm

"I am the Queen of Solitude, daughter of the Emperor! Summon the daedra! I'll trade the soul of every last subject of mine for a little comfort" ―Queen Potema, 3E 97

Not exactly someone you would want as a ruler...

» Sat Jul 06, 2013 2:29 pm

No one said she would make a good ruler, what's at question is weather or not she has claim to the thrown and weather or not claim or support matters. She would be a tyrant, there would be so much strife and suffering that I have my doubts Skyrim would survive it. Which is why I snuffed her out, can't allow that evil to be risen. Good thing I stopped those necromancers....

Anyway no she wouldn't make for a good ruler, by no means. :no: