Unable to sit due to some mod(s) : IV

» Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:57 am

Hello.

I have recently noticed my character is unable to sit. I did some research and checked whether it was the same bug caused by KotN or disabled AI, which was not. Detailed description of the problem: My character starts sitting animation but immediately when his butt touches the seat he suddenly gets in position where he was standing before start of the animation. I have also noticed that NPCs that should be sitting are standing on chairs instead.

I tried running just vanilla plugins (and Better cities as I was in a house added by that mod) with my last save and sitting worked fine so I am pretty sure that this issue is caused by one or more mods. I run heavily modded game (FCOM, UL, BC, ton of quest mods, etc.) so inspecting every mod in my load order would take lots of time so I am posting my order here, maybe some of you will be able to identify the culprit.

Active Mod Files:

Spoiler

00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.35Beta]08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]0B  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0C  MD_Saddle_Master.esm0D  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0E  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.3.3]0F  CM Partners.esm10  IDKRRR_C_race_closed_mouth_version.esm11  RealisticLeveling.esm12  Knights - Revelation.esm13  SDR.esm  [Version 7.0.4]14  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.3]15  UOPS Additional Changes.esp16  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp17  DLCShiveringIsles.esp18  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.2]++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp19  Better Cities .esp  [Version 5.3.0]1A  Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp  [Version 5.0]1B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]1C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]1D  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]1E  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]1F  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp20  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]21  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]22  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp23  OBGE - Liquid Water.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp24  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]26  WindowLightingSystem.esp27  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp28  ImprovedSigns.esp29  ReneersNotesMod.esp2A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]2B  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]2C  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]2D  Get Wet - no droplets.esp2E  kuerteeAutoSaveAndTime.esp2F  kuerteeCleanUp.esp30  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]31  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]32  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]33  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]34  DLCHorseArmor.esp35  DLCOrrery.esp**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp36  DLCVileLair.esp37  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp38  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  GrimbotsSpellTomes.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp39  PTArtifacts.esp3A  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]++  TGND2 Armamentarium Replacer.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  TGND2 Better Cities Replacer.esp  [Version 1.0.0]3B  TGND.esp**  TGND_SI.esp3C  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp3D  Zira's Demonic Mounts.esp3E  MD Saddlebags v3.0.esp3F  MD Saddlebags v3.0 Alternative Trader Script.esp40  DLCThievesDen.esp**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp41  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp42  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]43  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]44  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp45  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]46  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]48  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]49  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.35Beta]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 2.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]4A  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - 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Revelation Vwalk.espF6  IntegrationTheStrandedLight-SilverfishRiverValley patch.esp  [Version 1.1]++  SDR_Detect Life Shader Patch [Oblivion].esp  [Version 5.0.0]++  Banes Guilds United Integration patch.esp++  Banes Guilds United LAME patch.espF7  RenGuardOverhaul_PatchForSDR.espF8  SDR_Perks And Patches [Oblivion].esp  [Version 7.0.4]F9  UVII.esp**  Sensual Walks.esp**  Sensual Walks SI.esp**  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp++  Refined Integration face.esp++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]FA  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Thanks for any help you can provide!

» Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:45 pm

The best thing you could do is to go back to the setup when the sitting animation was working properly. Then add one mod at a time and check to make sure everything is alright. I was looking at the load order and did not notice anything out of ordinary except that you're using two different water mods: Enhanced Water and OBGE Liquid Water. Drop either one and you should be fine for that part of the game.