Too deadly dragons : V

» Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:46 am

I added Deadly Dragons and also the Slighty variant of Enhanced Mighty Dragons, but after finding Mirmulnir impossible to kill for my new c. Lvl 10 char I decided to drop the latter and that fight worked fine after that with only DD. At c. Lvl 15 my char faced an ordinary Dragon which much like Mirmulnir with EMD seemed to have infinite health points. I thought it might be because I hadn't waited for a respawn, so I did that. And now at Lvl 19 I faced a Blood Dragon which also seems to have an enormous amount of health points. I have Deadly Dragons set at vanilla so they should basically have vanilla stats plus the special abilities from DD if I understand it correctly. If checking Blood Dragons in Tes5Edit it's only DD that seems to affect them and they have 700 health offset. But in practice my char has barely dented it after c. 50 strikes with the Skyforge Steel Greatsword. In short, Dragons are much much hardier than during previous games and I can't figure out why that is. A fight would take 30 minutes or so as it is. Anyone who has an idea? Here's my current load order:

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» Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:39 am

Yes, I play with both on Expert and Dragons are to be feared. I see nothing wrong with your mod load order.

» Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:30 pm

But I'm not using Enhanced Mighty Dragons and am playing with Deadly Dragons on vanilla at Adept, so they should be as in vanilla plus their special abilities (which they have) - but they aren't.

» Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:48 am

Maybe even the slightly Mighty Dragons variant is too much for you. Deadly Dragon adds its changes via script in addition to the dragon stats. Mighty Dragons "only" edits the base npcs / dragon race and adds the changes directly. So any DD changes will apply on top of the MD ones. You deactivated these so you are experiencing just MDs dragon stats.

» Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:14 pm

Yes, Slightly Mighty Dragons were too much for me, which is why I uninstalled it. Seems you have to be Lvl +30 to embark on the MQ with it. Do you mean I'll have Mighty Dragons stats during the rest of this game even after uninstalling it? Are the stats in the save file? :confused:

» Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:34 am

No, not if you uninstalled it. Effects may stick on the npcs until you reset the cells, but nothing more to fear.

» Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:21 pm

OK, but then I still don't understand why the Blood Dragon has so much health points as I've uninstalled Mighty Dragons and waited for a cell reset before encountering it. So still a mystery for me.

EDIT: I just checked its health with the console and it has 1421 HP. Maybe it's something I don't understand about cell resets in Skyrim? I waited 31 days in The Bannered Mare. Shouldn't all cells be reset after that?