and with out doing main quest causing dragons

what i mean like can suggest any ruins/forts that give alot of items i can sell for alot (that arnt like impossible to do with only enough magika to cast 4 bolts before running about till it regenerates because i cant afford any potions and fail at alchemy )

just want to start hearth fire that is all so far i cleared out a ruin for the jarl and got 500 septims for it would love more quest with such a high reward but i know most only give you 25-100 (and thats only my experience from doing radiant quest for the fighters guild on my now corrupted save which i deleted ...)

(starting over really svcks how do people do it so often .-.)

You can get 4000 by the time you get to Riverwood coming out of Helgen with little effort. It can't be any easier to get easier gold in this game.

Just go dungeon diving. Bring a follower and take all you can.

Exactly this. ^^^

If you become over encumbered, just click on the follower and have them search a container, fallen enemy or simply pick up loot from the ground. That way they will pick up and carry an unlimited amount. Essentially looting an entire dungeon into their inventory.

You get more gold from loot than any other means in the game. Way more than quest rewards.

i never bring followers because they get in the way and if they die well then i have to reload because i hate it when non respawning NPC's die

*nods*

bandits and dungeons are the best source for gold

loot there gear and sell it to vendors

could always try for the dark brother hood quest line at the end you will have your gold lol

how

It's not that hard to get gold in Skyrim. Literally just play the game and the gold will come to you. Do quest, explore dungeons, sell valuable items.

this is like my 5th play through and quest are boring i know how they play out but this is my 1st character to have all the DLC but im too weak and broke to do any of it ...

What difficulty are you playing on? Turning down your difficulty might help you clear dungeons for enough coin to get yourself started.

Talk to the miners outside Markarth and do the quest Clear Kolskeggr Mine.

Mine all the gold in the mine and make some jewelry.

but i only have enough manna to cast 4x fire bolt and theres like 8 body guards

Then just go to Dragonsreach and pick up all the goblets, plates and whatnot.

chop wood for 30 minutes.

Lower the difficulty and bring a follower. No shame in that. The only way for a follower to die, is if you kill then while they're down.

That is a good way to make gold at low levels. It comes out to earning 1 gold per second of chopping.

It would take around 1 hour 35 minutes to make 5,000 septims then.

Go to Riverwood right out of Helgen and Chop wood.
Hmm let's see, 168 times should do it.

Oh, you said fast huh? Well, then, you could do what the others say...

But the fastest method by far is this:

When you reach riverwood, Embershared mine is right behind riverwood.

Loot everyone and mine everything, sell in riverwood.

Across the bridge from whiterun, white river watch, again loot everyone and walk to whiterun.

Get a horse/follower, go to halted stream camp and/or silent moons camp, clear and loot everyone and you should have 5,500-6000 by then.

If you helped carlotta, she rewards you with 250, in my time of need is another 400-500 gold.

Or you can just chop wood all day in white run and sell it to hulda, or in same thing in river wood.

I'll give an even easier way to get that much money.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim_talk:Salmon_Roe

THIS

ALCHEMY = GOLD

I do mine the old fashioned way, kill stuff, loot stuff and sell stuff to vendors.

Riverwood has a general goods and a blacksmith.

Whiterun has general goods, keep wizard, fletcher, and the blacksmith (which has 2 vendors).

Most of them have a daily allowance of like 750 without factoring in perks, and the two whiterun blacksmith vendors have 1000 or 1100 IIRC. Talk to everybody in Riverwood and Whiterun, especially the innkeepers. Ask the innkeeper multiple times about rumors in the area and then ask them for work to get the bounty notes from the Jarl. If this is your first time playing the Innkeeper gives you the bounty letter, uncovers the location on your map of the camp/area. When asked about rumors they may uncover dragon/shout locations "discover source of power at location X". It beats wandering around looking for the stuff. Off the top of my head here are some of the quests i can think of:

-Once Raluf or Hadvar cut your binds loot every weapon, every piece of armor and every potion you see until you exit the keep

-loot ingredients if you want, i say dont loot food

-faendal or sven (not really for gold, just to have a follower)

-riverwood innkeeper > rumors and work

-talk to blacksmith sell him any armor or weapons you or your follower dont need

-talk to general goods get golden claw mission, sell anything to him that the blacksmith wouldnt buy

-Whiterun

-blacksmiths sell anything that you couldnt sell at riverwood

-Ysolda > mammoth tusk

-Carlotta > sends you to talk to Mikael

-Whiterun innkeeper > rumors and work

-talk to Mikael

-talk to female elf in corner and brawl her for 100g

-talk to companions in Jorvaskr, eventually you get a job from one of their leaders

-while you walk around Whiterun pass close to guards so they talk to you...sometimes they will warn you of areas with bandit activity IE "bandits have been seen in a cave SE of town" and then it will update your map and mark it

-dragonsreach > Jarl > wizard > quest to get dragonstone at bleak falls barrow

You should now have a bunch of stuff marked off on your map. Bandit camps that you can clear out, loot and sell to vendors. Dont forget that once you have a bunch of stuff you can trade it to your follower so they can haul it around for you. If you are getting close to your carry limit and you dont want to make an extra trip you can do what i do. When comparing pieces of gear look at the items weight to vendor gold ratio. If you have to choose between one hunting bow that weighs 7 and sells for 50 and three iron daggers that weight 6 total and sell for 30 total which do you take? Do you take that one iron chest armor that weighs 30 and sells for 125? or do you take 5 imperial light chest armor that weighs 30 total and sells for 375 total? Imperial light boots 2lbs for 15 gold or fur boots 2lbs for 5 gold? You get the idea i'm sure. You dont have to bust out a slide rule or calculator to figure it out just figure it out in your head.