Hello

I'm trying to make a plugin that uses all the official DLC and unofficial patches as masters.

The unofficial patches are plugins themselves, so I needed to flip the ESM tag in TES5Editon each .esp to turn them into masters.

Now, I am trying to arrange my plugins master load order, so that it uses them correctly. I'm not sure how to do this.

Can anyone help out?

Did you try to load them all at once in the ck? It might "know" the proper load order.

(Note: If you create a mod requiring the unofficial patches, you'll force your users to use them.)

Yes, I know the users will have to use them. My mod uses the fixes in the unofficial patches to operate. Anyway, people should have them regardless.

Yes, I tried to load them all at once, and the CK arranged them wrong.

(I'm sorry to say so but forcing people to use other mods so that yours works is bad modding policy.)

How do you know that the ck arranged them wrong?

There are game breaking problems that the Unofficial Patches fix. If a user doesn't want to use the Patches than that is up to them to choose, and that's really the end of it.

Also, I am looking at my master load order in the CK (file/data/myfile), and it's set up wrong.

What does the parent masters look like? It should be something like:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial patch (base)

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial patch Dawnguard

Hearthfires.esm

Unofficial patch Hearthfire

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial patch Dragonborn

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Hearthfires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Umm... don't the unofficial patches go after all the DLC? Or did something change drastically since I dove into Crusader Kings II?

My advice: The Creation Kit still loads plugins by modified date, so it won't match your actual load order. Get TES5Edit and use the "add master"/"sort master" functions.

Yeah, that sounds right. I'll try and sort them in tes5edit now.

EDIT: Okay what the hell. I tried using the sort masters in tes5edit like 30 mins ago, and they were still all mixed up in the CK.

Now they sort perfectly.

Thanks