Trouble in Skyrim quest conflicts

Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:25 am

I have another issue that I think I'm screwed, unless if someone can help.

I completed Purity of Revenge and Glory of the Dead quests from the Companion storyline. I asked Farkas to give me a job, he gave me the job to clear the leader of Haemar's Shame.

I previously cleared the Haemar's Shame during A Daedra's Best Friend quest where I bring Barbas back. I remember when I arrived there, there was two ash piles already there (I didn't kill them, and haven't visited there previous the A Daedra's Best Friend quest).

After giving the job to clear the Haemar's Shame, there wasn't any quest pointers, and I can't even click on "Show on Map" when Trouble in Skyrim quest is active. I decided to go there anyways, and I met with the Vampire and Vampire Master. Now I know why there was two ash piles in my previous visit. Killed them...it didn't update the quest. I went to Farkas anyways, and he says, "I already given you a job, get to it!"

Am I screwed? I have the save prior to going in Haemar's Shame, but not prior to given the quest...the Autosave overrode the previous one. I didn't think it would give me any issues, so I deleted all my other saves prior to finding out about this issue. I'm bummed since I read somewhere that the "Kill the leader of so-and-so" quests are randomized, and I could have just loaded up a previous save and get a random place to attack.

Thanks for any help. And no...I can't do fix via console as this is X360.

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Bonnie Clyde
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:38 pm

You need to load a save before you were given that quest by Farkas. Preferably one where you go through a loading screen, then Farkas.
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Lawrence Armijo
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:38 pm

I mentioned that I don't have any saves prior to given the mission. I just completed the Glory of the Dead, and asked Farkas right there for a job, then I overrode any saves that I had, including the autosaves since I went through several loading screens afterwards. This is just a odd bug (I think!), and now I think I'm screwed because I cannot get any other Companions radiant quests.

I've heard about waiting for 32 days or so and that should fix it. The weird thing is, when I do go to Haemar's Shame, the Vampire Master IS there...

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Kayla Keizer
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:52 pm

Radiant quests can bork when they are given to locations that you had a quest active at already. Unfortunately, the best way to fix this is to load a save from before you got the location for the quest and try again.

You might try a console command to move the quest stage forward, but if it's looking for a flag also (the death of the target NPC) then you will have to figure out the console command to set that flag, or just complete the quest entirely.

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maya papps
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:48 pm

Sometimes the game will try to send you to locations you already have cleared. In these cases, it's often impossible to complete the quest, as the person you need to kill is no longer there. You're screwed on your current mission; all you can do is be aware of where the game tries to send you. If it sends you to a location you've already cleared, then reload and get a different location.

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Haley Cooper
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:21 pm

It's too late to do anything about it now, I realize, but why did you do that? You should never over-write saves like that. Always keep several saves, going back several hours or several levels, just in case something like this happens.

The Elder Scrolls games are more complex than most other games and that means more things can go wrong. It pays to hold onto as many saves as you can.

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Matthew Barrows
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:20 pm

This is the reason that I will have 200 to 300 save slots on a character, just so I can go back a save or two.

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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:27 pm

My last line says - And no...I can't do fix via console as this is X360. that stinks because now I cannot complete any other Companion radiant quests because I already have a job. I'm kicking myself because I cleaned up my save files list, and went through several loading screens, should have checked prior. Now I learned my lesson to have several saves regardless. I'm at Level 21, finished Act I of the main quests, and have done 29 quests and 39 misc objectives. Haven't done any of the Thieve's Guild, DB Quests, Civil War. A few Daedric Quests. So in a sense, I'm still kind of in the beginning of the game. I did a lot of the quests and misc objectives in order to raise my levels a bit.

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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:48 am

Yeah I know, I'm kicking myself at that. I actually had several saves prior to completing the Glory of the Dead mission and after that, I cleaned up my save files and deleted them all except the first time where I started my character to avoid the long cutscene. :wallbash:

I feel like I want to throw in the towel and start over again. It could have been worse...I could have been level 50-60. *heaves a big sigh* :cryvaultboy: I probably will just keep my character's race and stick with the major/minor skills that I have mapped out for her.

I was afraid that if I have too many saves, then I would have issues with things being glitchy...or is this something that is ridiculously high numbers? I played Fallout 3 to 100% finished EVERY SINGLE MISSION/ Side missions with just a couple saves...that was well over 150 hours of gameplay time, and no glitches.

Big lesson learned...I'm sure I ain't the only one that had to restart the game over a stupid glitch/bug.

Thanks for the help regardless...I was just hoping there was a solution. :confused:

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Charles Weber
 
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:10 pm

I'm assuming that you're using the PC version because you mentioned about fixing via console. Won't it overwhelm issues on X360 version? I've heard stories on how if you have too many saves, it can cause more glitches or lagging issues. Am I wrong? But yes, I think from now on, I will do major saves prior to doing a mission, and do minor saves throughout a quest. That way if I have issues with a particular quest, I can just go back a quest, and svck it up and do it again if I have to in order to avoid a glitch.

Thanks!

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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:43 am

Same here, just not that many.

I save before a loading screen that lead to radiant quests, normal quests, before I enter any area that requires a loading screen, before I leave a dungeon, before I enter a dungeon, before an important event and battle.

Doing this so far has been very useful. Haven't encountered a bug I couldn't fix using this method.
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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:16 am

Also, keep in mind that a cleared location (that does respawn) will take 30 in-game days to do so. Although, I don't run into this very often, the game will occasionally send me to a recently cleared location and in some circumstances it can completely break certain questlines (such as the Companions) as a result. The best prevention method though (as others have stated above) is to make frequent hard (non-auto) saves. I also find that backing up older saves on to a external USB drive helps so that I don't accumulate too many saves in my Skyrim directory on my HDD, since that has been reported to sometimes cause game performance issues on the 360 console.

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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:51 pm

I don't think it matters until you get into the mid to upper 3 figures on save counts. You can always archive or delete excess saves later on. Even on the PC, I periodically go and delete a hundred or so of them from back at the beginning of the list (once I am sure I would never need to load one of those). For the record, I have had over a 1000 slots on the PC and noticed no impact when accessing the save list, but I do archive or delete them periodically. More to keep the SSD tidy than anything else.

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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:46 pm

I never bothered to delete anything and ended up with almost 2,000 saves... non-problematic.

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Post » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:57 pm

No, I haven't had any major issues with my saves, I tend to keep about 2 per lvl, more during major questlines. During MQ I have had about 200 on one character and about 500 more saves overall, for Skyrim. Plus my 2 Oblivion characters and about 200 hr's of RDR. I clean up each night, but leave extra saves during the major questlines just in case. ( Oh and AC:2 my hubby was playing).

Now I did recently delete everything off the 360, something was causing it to crash, but that is with ALL the above. Was it Skyrim? IDK, we have recently started playing more and it may also have gotten too hot. ( yeah it svcked but I deleted my favorite character).

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