BGS wrong about dragons in TES:V Skyrim?

Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:30 am

That is indeed very likely, similar to how worldwide tales of trolls and elves are likely ancient memories of other hominid species, now extinct, that we used to share the world with.

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Marina Leigh
 
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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:36 pm

yep :yes:

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Jonathan Windmon
 
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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:11 pm

This is a silly argument, considering dragons, wyverns et al are fictional, and are terms are used to describe creatures of different configurations in different cultures.

Oh, and I think we also have to make a differentiation between "legs" and "limbs" . The dragons in TES, which is a typical configuration for dragons (although not the only one), is actually a six "limbed" creature, with two legs, two arms, and two wings (which are really modified arms). To limit the term "dragon" to only one configuration is silly.

I once worked for Grenadier models (makers of fantasy gaming miniatures) and sculptor john Dennett had sculpted a "Frost Dragon" that had some fur along it's body. He told me a fan once commented to him that "dragons don't have fur", and his answer was "Really? And where have you seen any real dragons that proves that?"

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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:11 am

Ah yes, this topic again. Dragons in TES are Bethesda's own depiction of dragons in their universe that they created. They don't have to follow some sort of imaginative fantasy rule book in order to create the "right" dragon.
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Monika Fiolek
 
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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:39 am

The reason why dragons in Skyrim aren't how you think they should be is http://i.imgur.com/7PhTzAL.jpg
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Kate Norris
 
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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 6:42 pm


There seems to be only one type of dragon in the elderscrolls. in oblivion akatosh was a wyvern type from what I saw of some reduard gameplay so was the dragon in that game. and in skyrim every single dragon and alduin was that type. If the people in tamerial were to call the dragons wyvern dragons that would mean there are more types then that one we seen and theres not. The people of tamerial have only ever seen that type of dragon no others ( that I herd about) to them the wyvern type are the only dragons they know of.
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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:20 pm

The dragons in Skyrim look like wyrms, but they are the dragons of TES. Every dragon seen in a TES game looked like a wyrm (best example is Nafaalilargus, like someone mentioned before).

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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:54 pm

Does it matter? Wyvern, dragon, who cares? It's Bethesda's game, they can do whatever they want with it. Glaurung wasn't much of a medieval dragon either, I don't see anyone berating Tolkein.

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Emily Martell
 
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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:16 pm

Not all dragons are four legged, look at how chinese dragons are. They are depicted as long serpent like creatures that fly around sometimes without wings, some have four legs others have more then that. What you're talking about is European dragons which aren't the universal form of dragons.
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sara OMAR
 
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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:16 am

The snake looking dragons are serpent type dragons and some have 4 legs and some have no legs.

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Claudia Cook
 
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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:09 am

Another thing to take into consideration

Nirn =/= earth

so them calling these Wyvern like beings "dragons" is perfectly fine.
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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:56 am

Nah - they aren't wrong .. just different :)

Kind of like when you kill an Elk that is actually a Moose to harvest a deer hide. Legit, no? Me thinks Sheogorath had some fun with the wildlife.

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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:53 pm

Not Dragons. Dragon is what Men call them. They are DOV.

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A lesson in TES proper lore names:

Redguard wrong

Ra Gada correct

Dwarv wrong

Dwemer correct

Elve wrong

Mer correct

Opps, those weren't Elves? Stupid Ysgramor

Kahjiit correct

Dragon wrong

Dov correct

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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:37 pm

OP, you realize Dragons are Mythical Creatures, and as such have different appearances depending on the culture the particular Myth originated fromt?

a Chinese Dragon is Different from a European Dragon, which Is Different from a Korean or Japanese Dragon, which is different from an Indian Dragon, which is different from the Native American equivalent of a Dragon..


there is no such thing as "Dragons have to look like !"..

all Beth did was use the Variation of the Mythical Dragon they liked the most..



I don't know where your getting this whole "Dragons have four legs"! thing, they are Mythical creatures, and as such there are many interpretations from many cultures on how they should look, many with less then 4 legs...

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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 4:47 am

Different language=/=wrong name

Dov means dragon in their language

Ra Gada means redguard in their language

Mer means elf

and so on...

It's essentially the same as calling someone from Germany Deutsch rather than German. Deutsch is German in their language, German is German in ours. Neither is "wrong"

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Post » Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:40 am

Wrong. Dwemer, for example, doesn't mean Dwarf, it means "Deep Ones" or "Deep Elves". Ra Gada also doesn't mean "Redguard", "Redguard" is some sort of corruption of Ra Gada. The UESP says this about them:

"The word Ra Gada became corrupted to http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Redguard, and although it originally referred only to the warriors of the refugees, it gradually became to be the name used to refer to the whole race." So Ra Gada =/= Redguard

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Post » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:33 pm

I think our problem here is people thinking Wyverns & Dragons are completely different Species.

Wyverns are under the Category of "Dragon", It's one of the species of them.

Just like a Tiger is under the Category of "Cat", while it's not it's complete official distinguishing name, a Tiger is still a Cat, and there's nothing wrong with me calling it one.

Here's a comparable list of what I mean.

Cats

Tiger

Panther

Cheetah

Lion

Tabby Cat

ETC.

Dragons

Wyvern

Imoogi

Lindworm

Nāga

Bakunawa

Y Ddraig Goch

ETC.

Just like it's fine to call a Tiger a Cat, It's fine to call a Wyvern a Dragon, because that's what they are.

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