Fortify enchanting potion : V

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:18 am

Hi all,
I have 100 Alchemy skill, 5/5 Alchemist and 1/1 Benefactor. Is it normal, that I can create only +15% Fortify Enchanting potion? I'm not using any gear enchanted with Fortify Alchemy.
Thanks for answers :smile:

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:47 am

Are you wearing any gear with fortify alchemy while you create this potion?

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:09 am

Read my post again please :smile:

I'm just asking if 15% is max without it.

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 2:34 pm

I think Ive created a 20ish something potion before.

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:16 am

Shadow_Titain17: Without fortify alchemy enchant on any of the gear?

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:58 am

Yes.

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:35 pm

Weird. Dont u know what can cause, that i have only 15%?

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 4:02 pm

Then you need to put on some fortify enchant gear.

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 12:43 am

Yes. In your case, you have:

base multi: 4 (applies to all potion effects)

base magnitude: 1 (varies by effect, but just 1 in the case of fortify enchanting)

skill multi: 1.5 (maxed at alchemy skill level 100)

alchemist perks: 5/5: 2 (maxed in your case)

benefactor perk: 1.25 (fixed with a single perk)

So you have 4 * 1 * 1.5 * 2 * 1.25 = 15

Add fortify alchemy gear or fortify alchemy potion and you add more multipliers.

One fortify alchemy gear at 25% and it's:

15 * 1.25 = 18.75

Four pieces each at 25% and it's:

15 * 2 = 30

Add a 30% potion to the four pieces of 25% gear and it's:

15 * 2 * 1.3 = 39

Add a handful of restoration potions and a couple pieces of fortify alchemy gear it's 15 * 5,000 = 75,000

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:33 am

It's not worth it. Even with Necromage, 100 Alchemy, and all perks in Alchemy tree - when was able to get a 33% (30% before equipping and after equipped become 33%, affected by Necromage) Fortify Alchemy for each of the 4 items - I can only reach a +25-30-ish% Fortify Enchanting (While a Fortify Enchanting Elixir can get you 25%).

You can try exploits like the restoration-loop to get the number you want (google restoration loop). It would take some experiments and it can gets complicated (Like, with two 25% rings and one 13% hat - Guessing numbers, exactly like how REAL alchemy is supposed to be ), because the number goes up exponentially.

For examples: After hours of experiments, I was able to make a potion of 1200% Fortify Enchanting, which yields me an enchanted effect of 400% Fortify Alchemy (To make things fun fair on Legendary difficulty). But putting this ring on only still got me 20%ish Potion of Fortify Enchanting... while yielding 8 minutes Paralyze potions, %200 Fortify Health Regeneration, Ravage Mana and Mana Regeneration of 300 and 100% respectively (render the most powerful mages in Skyrim completely useless in one hit), and Fear potions that affect creatures and people up to level 135. :blink:

Beth really did a good job keeping Fortify Enchanting and Fortify Alchemy down to prevent overpowering your characters... Until the Loop comes along, that is.

» Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:29 am

Thank you all for the answers