Undead creatures not attacking me : IV

» Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:55 pm

Recently in my game Undead creatures and necromancers have stopped attacking me. Is this a bug? Or is this due to my high infamy? I have 41 fame and 56 infamy. I am also the DB Listener, which I thought might have this side effect.

» Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:21 pm

I remember http://www.youtube.com/user/teamudf had this issue. It was because of a mod. I forget which one, but it might have been http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/17479//?, or possibly http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/15251//?, are you using either of those?

» Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:07 am

No, I am not using either of those. Here is my load order:

Active Mod Files:

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just droplets.esp23  kuerteeCleanUp.esp24  MigMiscellanea.esp  [Version 1.5]25  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]26  Streamline 3.1.esp27  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]28  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]29  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]2A  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]2B  DLCOrrery.esp2C  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2D  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]2E  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2F  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]30  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.30]31  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]**  Book Jackets DLC.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp32  PTArtifacts.esp**  Armamentium female.esp33  Slof's Horses Base.esp34  DLCThievesDen.esp35  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]36  SM Plugin Refurbish - ThievesDen.esp  [Version 1.30]37  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]38  OCR+COBL Luggage Patch.esp39  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]3A  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp3B  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp  [Version 3.0b]++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]3C  TIE.esp  [Version 1.49]3D  Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp  [Version 3.21]3E  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.1.2]3F  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.6]40  Temple District Repaired.esp  [Version 1.0]41  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.6]42  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.5.6]43  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 3.0.5]44  DLCFrostcrag.esp45  DLCFrostcrag - 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» Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:33 am

None of those stick out to me as a cause for this, but then I'm not using many of the mods you are. I suppose you could use the console to remove yourself from the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Factions_U#Undead, assuming that is the cause, it was for Teamudf if I remember correctly. But I'm not sure how exactly, I've never done it myself, and its been years since I saw Teamudf do it. I suppose I can look for which video it was, though really it would be best if someone with more experience than I helps you, like I said I don't use most of the mods you do and haven't tried to remove myself from a faction via console before, and I can't say for certain that would solve the problem anyway.

Still it can't hurt for me to try and find the video, I'll get back to you if I do manage to do so.

» Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:35 pm

That didn't take nearly as long as I thought it would, here is the video where he deals with the issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5_oQ00sd2s&list=PL2Nhq-fpVvDvOh7STjYOtiqdOwsEp2mJl&index=2 . Also he used http://oblivion.nexusmods.com/mods/16704//? to see which factions he was in, you might want consider using that or another mod which does the same.

» Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:31 pm

Thank you, Zetman. I'll let you know what I find out.

» Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:43 am

Well, that was the issue. I was somehow part of the Necromancer faction. Not sure how that happened but I was able to unjoin the faction via the console. Thanks, Zetman.