Clean-up consistently causing curious crashes

Post » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:32 am

So, I installed kuertee's Clean-up mod last week, thinking that it would improve long term performance by reducing the size of the save game files. Everything seemed to be working. I was able to access the in-game menu to check player houses to make sure they were "safe" and create new "safe" areas, and I could see that unwanted clutter items were disappearing.

But, my game soon started crashing. Before installing Clean-up I could play consistently for at least two to three hours or more before a CTD. But now I was getting them much more frequently. So, I started paying attention to what was happening when the game crashed and it turned out to be casting certain combinations of spells.

For instance, I could cast summon zombie, no problem. But If I cast a nighteye or light spell and then cast a summon zombie while the illusion spell was still in effect, the game would immediately crash. I repeared that several times to make sure that was the cause, and every time the game would crash. It crashed on other spell combinations too, but I haven't spent enough time to figure them all out.

I uninstalled Clean-up and the mysterious crashes disappeared. I can cast all the summon zombie spells I want with both nighteye and light in effect with no crashes.

Anyone have any idea why Clean-up would be causing this? I figure there must be some incompatibility with another mod I am running, but Clean-up is supposed to be universally compatible.

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