Can Mr House really keep New Vegas for a long time?

Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:17 pm

The robots can certainly be remade. House can purchase supplies from the NCR (who aren't in a position to create an embargo, because House can essentially turn off the switch that gives them electricity and water). Not to mention, there's an entire running saturnite mine in Big MT as well?

It says in the ending slides that he would keep New Vegas safe and secure for future generations, but if that's not evidence enough, perhaps consider the fact that a robot army is reproducible, doesn't need sleep, food, and doesn't suffer from disease/exposure.

House is going to be very well set up if he wins the dam; the argument that is normally placed in front of Mr. House is whether his "set up" is a good thing for New Vegas and the surrounding areas.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:20 pm

They aren't crappy and the NCR doesn't start wars. The NCR wants the Strip intact and they have alot more on their plate to deal with than Mr. House who isn't threatning them at all. If anything Mr.House rolled out the welcome mat for the NCR when the NCR first showed up and helped them with Hoover Dam and all that. So really Mr. House is an ally.

And when Mr. House gets his robots upgraded and access to the Fort.. He has a real army and the NCR isn't in any shape to go to War with Mr. House. They don't need another enemy, another threat to reduce their military power.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:57 am

Which I think is assuming that House doesn't have some sort of plan in place for replacing his robotic units, perhaps he has some sort of retooled factory at the ready. Which I really wouldn't be surprised if he does.

Even assuming he has to make do with the robots he has for a time, I wouldn't think it would be a substantially long period before he's able to refit something to begin producing the robotic parts. He's the CEO of Robco after all, I think he knows how to produce robotic units in the cheapest and most efficient way.

And again, since he's the CEO of Robco, he's likely got access to any and all Robco facilities, and I believe its stated somewhere that Robco world headquarters was located in the Vegas area. He's going to be able to produce robots eventually. He's got the know how and there's certainly ample resources in the region.

In the meantime, he's given both the NCR and Legion a good enough wallop that he likely won't have to fear counter-attack for some time. If at all.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 2:49 pm

How many can he build, without a source of prime materials? Without all the infrastuctures that are needed to trasform those materials in a form he can model? Has he stored enough resources to rebuild his army twice? It doesn't change anything. In time, his machines will be overwhelmed, by the ncr, the legion, or the simply the dangers of the wasteland. He can hire mercenaries, but they are not a solid force to which depend on, when you have to keep under control a whole region.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:52 pm

This question has been answered and ignored so many times, it's baffling.

Scroll up, please.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:31 pm

I agree with Gingy, it has been answered many times by now.

1. Mr. House has the H+H building, The Lucky 38 and his Vault under the Fort. More than enough to build robots.

2. The NCR would supply him with raw materials through trade. The NCR can't cut him off because Mr. House can cut them off of the water and power they really need.

3. There are groups within the NCR that would supply him even if the NCR cuts Mr. House off from supplies.

4. There is also alot of people in the area not NCR that would supply him with material.

5. He can use his robots to gather supplies if need be.

6. The NCR is already at war with the Legion, Brotherhood of Steel and a number of other smaller groups, they don't need to pick a fight with Mr. House who hasn't actaully harmed the NCR in any real way. Remember the NCR agreed to his terms in the first place and they agree to his terms at the end if you show up with a bunch of robots and force them to leave.

7. If you want more detail on those last points just read the posts in the first page.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 5:13 pm

I have no idea why, but I am very amused by the idea of robots running around grabbing supplies to create more robots.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:47 pm

The Calculator does it in Fallout Tactics. At least Mr. House would be in control of his robots.. Unless he programs his own AI to run things and then it turns on Mr. House :shocking:

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:08 am

In addition to what Styles said, its the post-apocalypse. Their's plenty of scrap and raw materials lying around...well everywhere to build more robotic units. Scavenging for these raw materials is possible and indeed logical.

While in the long term, I suppose the NCR and the Legion might be able to produce more soldiers. Its also important to keep in mind that House's solders don't need to be trained whatsoever, and carry weaponry and armaments worth a good five or six 'trained' NCR soldiers or legionaries.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:41 pm

That's how you end humanity right there.

On topic, I think that the NCR or Caesar's Legion would eventually become too powerful, probably not in a few years, but it would happen.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:13 am

If it were an army of sentry bots, sure. Securitrons? They're not well-built like sentry bots are. Even with their upgrades I don't see them as a real threat. Their bulky design just makes them easy targets. NCR could just snipe them from far away with brush guns and amrs. Or the NCR could just send one guy with a missile launcher or a fatman and aim it right at the penthouse of the Lucky 38 which would realistically cause enough damage for it to collapse and kill House. Only way I could see House actually winning an all-out war is if he moved himself to the fort vault and made some actual combat bots instead of some crappy protectrons on wheels with built-in t.v. screens.

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Post » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:44 am

Sentry bots are not as well built as Securitrons. Otherwise House wouldn't have bothered putting any research into the Securitron R&D and certainly people like Dr. 0, the head of robotics as Big Mountain, wouldn't be immensely jealous of how well made the Securitrons were and be attempting to reverse engineer them.

Just because you think they look worse or because they "look" bulky doesn't mean they are poor robots. Quite the contrary, they are excellent robotic soldiers. Their auto-repair systems alone make them a force to be feared. Added to it that they are carrying enough weaponry to make a man in power armor weep is just icing on the cake.

Granted, I think from a game development perspective that the Securitrons are designed a little weirdly (mono-wheel) that doesn't mean we can use that to point to how they should perform in-lore. Its ridiculous to assume that the CEO of actually built as his latest line of security bots, a version that was worse than the types they already had available.

And even if the Lucky 38 is destroyed, that doesn't mean House will be. House is contained within what appears to be a fortified bunker of sorts under the Lucky 38. He's well protected. The 38 is just the public facade of what is essentially his personal bunker.

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