The only mod I have installed recently is 28 and a Bit, but I don't see how that can cause these crashes. I would rather not have to remove it, but if that is the cause of the crashes, I guess I will.

Anyway, it seems that whenever I fast travel to cities, I crash after loading in. Also, sometimes when I enter cities (Mainly Skingrad) I crash out as well. Any help?

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0D  CM Partners.esm0E  HorseCombatMaster.esm0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]14  Better Cities .esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Distant Chapel Bells.esp1B  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.77]1C  Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp1D  Reznod_Mannequin.esp1E  Living Economy.esp1F  Living Economy - Items.esp20  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]21  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp22  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.3.1]23  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]24  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp25  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp26  WarriorBandages_V2.0.esp27  Rope Ladders v1.esp28  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]29  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2B  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp2C  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]2D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]2E  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]31  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]39  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]3A  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]3B  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]3C  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3D  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]3E  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3F  Servant of the Dawn.esp40  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.1]41  TOTF.esp++  TOTF Delayer.esp42  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp43  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp44  Valenwood.esp45  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.3]46  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.1]47  xulTheHeath.esp48  XulEntiusGorge.esp49  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4A  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]4B  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4C  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.3]4D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]4E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]4F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]50  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]51  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]52  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]53  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]54  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]55  xulPantherRiver.esp56  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]57  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]58  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]59  xulBlackwoodForest.esp5A  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5B  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5C  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5D  OL_MyBrumaFireplace.esp5E  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]5F  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp60  ConduitMagic.esp61  EnchantmentMastery.esp62  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]63  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]64  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]65  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]66  StealthOverhaul.esp67  Stealth Entrances v1.esp68  RenGuardOverhaul.esp69  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp6A  Denock Arrows.esp6B  Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp6C  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp6D  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp6E  nGCD.esp6F  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.77]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.77]70  CM Partners.esp71  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp72  CM Partners NPC.esp73  CM Partners More NPCs.esp74  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp75  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp76  BetterShack.esp77  candlelight.esp78  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp79  Better Cities Full.esp7A  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp7B  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp7C  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp7D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp7E  Better Imperial City.esp7F  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp80  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]81  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp82  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp83  Hemingweys Capes.esp  [Version 1.02]84  Bashed Patch, 0.esp85  Streamline 3.1.esp86  Blackmarsh.esp++  Vanilla_Oblivion_Skill_Rates-6548.esp87  PTArtifacts.esp++  newlifedetect.esp88  Side's Sailing Ships.esp89  Summerset.esp8A  ImperialCityHouse.esp8B  ShippingInCyrodiil_BC_comp_V1-1.esp8C  LFTestFameItems.esp8D  ZOMBIES! -  28 days and a bit V2.esp

Thanks in advanced,
Allstar

PS. I BOSSed my load order already.

• missing fcom cobl
  
• don't know why OOO ESP is still version 1.33, should be 1.34b
  
• Harvest flora should be 3.0.1 to avoid an oblivion gate crash
  
• denock arrows is obsolete, use cobl options tweak instead

And you could try cleaning 28 and a bit with TES4Edit.

gothemasticator

1. Just installed

2. Just patched it

3. Haven't acted on this yet, but since I haven't started the Main Quest yet, I think it is safe to rule this one out as the cause.

4. Uninstalled

5. I temporarily uninstalled 28andabit, and crashes still occurred.



New load order:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0D  CM Partners.esm0E  HorseCombatMaster.esm0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]11  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles.esp13  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]14  Better Cities .esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp17  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp18  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Distant Chapel Bells.esp1B  Book Jackets Oblivion - BP.esp++  Item interchange - Extraction.esp  [Version 0.77]1C  Portable Campsite - Quickstart.esp1D  Reznod_Mannequin.esp1E  Living Economy.esp1F  Living Economy - Items.esp20  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]21  C&C - The Blackwood Company.esp22  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.3.1]23  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]24  Adonnays Elven Weaponry.esp25  Shdw_Armor Set_Sotonhorian.esp26  WarriorBandages_V2.0.esp27  Rope Ladders v1.esp28  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]29  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2B  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2C  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp2D  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]2E  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp  [Version 1.35]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]32  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_LessRats.esp  [Version 0.9.9]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]39  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]3A  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  Travellers4MMMHostileFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]3B  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]3C  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]3D  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3E  C&C - The Blackwood Company - OOO.esp3F  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]40  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]41  Servant of the Dawn.esp42  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.1]43  TOTF.esp++  TOTF Delayer.esp44  Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp45  Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp46  Valenwood.esp47  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.3]48  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.1]49  xulTheHeath.esp4A  XulEntiusGorge.esp4B  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4C  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]4D  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4E  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.3]4F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]50  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]51  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.2]52  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]53  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]54  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]55  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]56  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]57  xulPantherRiver.esp58  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]59  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5A  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.3]5B  xulBlackwoodForest.esp5C  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5D  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5E  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5F  OL_MyBrumaFireplace.esp60  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]61  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp62  ConduitMagic.esp63  EnchantmentMastery.esp64  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.89]65  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]66  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.80]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]67  Lightweight Potions.esp  [Version 1.1]68  StealthOverhaul.esp69  Stealth Entrances v1.esp6A  RenGuardOverhaul.esp6B  RenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.esp6C  Enter The Shinobi - Coors916.esp6D  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp6E  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp6F  nGCD.esp70  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  Item interchange - Placement for FCOM.esp  [Version 0.77]++  Item interchange - Option, Ingredients in Bulk, reduced.esp  [Version 0.77]71  CM Partners.esp72  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp73  CM Partners NPC.esp74  CM Partners More NPCs.esp75  CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp76  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp77  BetterShack.esp78  candlelight.esp79  Better Cities - Full City Defences.esp7A  Better Cities Full.esp7B  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp7C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp7D  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp7E  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp7F  Better Imperial City.esp80  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp81  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2]82  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp83  Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp++  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp84  Hemingweys Capes.esp  [Version 1.02]85  Bashed Patch, 0.esp86  Streamline 3.1.esp87  Blackmarsh.esp++  Vanilla_Oblivion_Skill_Rates-6548.esp88  PTArtifacts.esp++  newlifedetect.esp89  Side's Sailing Ships.esp8A  Summerset.esp8B  ImperialCityHouse.esp8C  ShippingInCyrodiil_BC_comp_V1-1.esp8D  LFTestFameItems.esp

Well, since this has drifted back to page 4 and I'm still crashing, I think this deserves little bump

When does it crash? is it completely random? on transitions? What are your save habits like? Can you load a previous save, and bypass the problems?

1. Crashes ~2 seconds after I enter Skingrad, and instantly after fast travel to Anvil. It happens 100% of the time when I do this.

2. As for save habits, I usually use quicksaves while playing, but when I am going to quit or something big is about to happen, I do a full save. I've used over 5 different saves, all crash.


Well, until we figure this one out, I'm going to just deactivate my mods one-by-one and see if I can find it. I have a ton of mods though, so it might take awhile

If you use Autosave, try turning that off.

Deactivate them in groups of five - it works faster. When you find the cause, activate two of the mods you turned off; if that doesn't do it, do two more.

Huh, it seems that it was caused by 'CM Partners'. Not sure how though, it shouldn't affect those places at all :shrug: