the fact it has been patched as much as it was is saying a lot about Bethesda. Most console based games get NO patches at all, let alone 9.

GTA Online has had 9 already I think.

That is why i said MOST, and GTA ONLINE, isn't that an MMO technically or at least a mostly multiplayer game?

Thats because when other devs make games they aren't a bug riddled mess.

The fact that Skyrim has had 9 patches and is still bug riddled shows what a [censored] developer Bethesda really are.

I've spent the last few days playing The Witcher 2 and it destroys Skyrim in all areas except the ability to explore.

Graphics are decent, Storyline/quest writing/dialogue are so vastly superior to any bethesda product it's unreal.

Tons more variety of monsters (all far better animated that anything in Skyrim)

Game choices that genuinly alter the course of the game with actual consequences

No hand holding

Much harder/more challenging and more rewarding

Bugs? (not encountered any yet)

Shows Skyrim up for the bug riddled inferior mess it really is.