Anyone Successfully Overcome Invisible Heartfire House Bug?

Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:39 pm

I'm ready to throw in the towel on this one, thought I'd just see if anyone knows anything I don't yet.

So I have the old 'Invisible Heljarchen Hall' problem, which on closer examination appears to be more of a glitch in the Drafting table, which prevents the house-building quest from moving on, and the house from appearing in the world when built. I know a lot of people have had issues with this, on any or all of the 3 houses that were added by the Hearthfire DLC; for me Heljarchen is the only one that has caused any issues at all.

I have put in some time on the forums and know that removing the following mods has solved the problem for many:

Birds and Flocks

Real Wildlife

Distant Detail

Unique Region Names

Realistic Animals and Predators

Werewolves of Skyrim

Scenic Carriages

Additionally several mods which affect the movement of spouse and/or adopted children.

In my case however (and I'm sure I'm not alone here) I don't use any of the above mods and never have, with the exception of Distant Detail, which I have tried disabling/replacing with Hearthfire version to no effect. I also use no mods which add any spawn-points to the world; I know they can cause issues.

I have tried pretty much everything I can think of and everything I have seen suggested so far; disabling all likely mods, re-verifying cache files, adding mods which are intended for use with Hearthfire and alter the worldspace of the specific steading (ie: Fortified Heljarchen etc.) Nothing has made any difference.

When building I don't even see a roped-off area where the house should be, I get absolutely nothing at all appear. As mentioned above, the 'quest' remains static at the 'Use the drafting table to build your house' stage indefinitely, which is perhaps where the problem really lies.

If anyone has managed to resolve a similar issue with any methods I don't know about please suggest; I really can't imagine what would block the building of this particular steading and not the other two. I'm about to give up and send my 3rd character to live in Winstad...

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Lynette Wilson
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:20 pm

List your mods list first if you want some help you need to give us proper information

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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:47 pm

I was asking in case anyone had specifically had this issue and had resolved it; I don't expect anyone here to be able to pull a rabbit out of a hat. It could potentially be pretty much anything. My mod list is in the spoiler below.

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Apachii Hair

RaceCompatibility

Climates of Tamriel

Back off Barbas!

Brawl Bugs

Headtracking

Skyrim Flora Overhaul

Further Dark Dungeons for ENB

Auto Unequip Arrows

Black Unicorn

Craftable Torches

Dead Body Collision

Expanded Jewelry Crafting

Unique Bodies

Wet and Cold

Dynavision Dynamic Depth of Field

Footprints

Armored Nocturnal Robes

Armored Circlets

Ashara Prince of the Woods

Winter Is Coming Cloaks

Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor

Kaw's Claws

LadyKdCirclets

Lustmord Vampire Armor

Nicos Raven Swords

NN Elvish Dresses

Nouserhere Ears

Silverlight Armor

Vicious Dawnbreaker

Autumn Lodge

Heljarchen Reform

jkjs enhanced Hotpools

More Stables

Distant Detail HF

Headtracking

Hoods and Circlets

La Femme Lycana

Neutral Hjerim

Convenient Horses

Enhanced Lights and FX

Water

Better Vampires

Werewolf Enhancer

dovahkiin Relax

FAMP2

Harvesting Animation

Miss AniThrope's Mystic Eyes

The Ningheim

UFO

UFO Dawnguard/Heartfire addon

Lethan Shadowleaf

Vilkas

Shorter respawns

Eyes Variety

More Advanced Light Armors

IOTS Armor Extender

Transmute Dragon Soul

Digitigrade Khajiit

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Crystal Clarke
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:20 pm

Open all of them in TES5Edit. Once this done, for each of them, scroll down to "Workspace", expand "Tamriel", look for "Block -1,0", then scroll down and see which of them makes changes to "Sub-block -1,2". And you'll get your culprit.

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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:52 pm

Have you tried disabling ALL your mods? Even texture/graphic mods? Worth a shot. Dont make/overwrite any saves while doing this.

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Rich O'Brien
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:53 pm

I've not tried disabling all mods for the simple reason that the game will not run if I do that! Some of them are that integral to the save in question (ie: they pertain directly to the character I am playing, such as the race, armour etc.) Most of the mods I did disable were in fact texture and graphic type mods, though.

I have never messed with TES5 Edit, so not sure what I'm doing, but will give it a go. Pretty clear instructions, ladyonthemoon - thank you, I'll try - seems like it might be straightforward if it works...

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Francesca
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:42 am

It's the only way to visualize where the problem is but you're going to need patience, given the number of mods you're using. :smile: Ask away if you need help. And, once you've found one mod that modifies the said zone, you'll have to explore all the others too, in case more than one messes up with it. After that, instead of removing the culprit, you will be able to mod it so that it no longer interferes with Hearthfire. ;)

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His Bella
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:21 pm

It's actually "Sub-block -1,0", "Sub-block -1,2" and "Sub-block -1,3" that you'll have to verify in your mods.

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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:27 am

Ok, thanks for that. Will try...

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Maddy Paul
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:34 am

Unique Region Names, for me that was the one that made it work again by disabling. Revert to a save before you start drafting/building.

Edit : i should read your post more carefully before posting.

Is that your mod load order? Paste the BOSS version.

CoT is it not, as I have used it successfully. What is Heljarchen Reform?
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Nana Samboy
 
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Post » Tue Jan 28, 2014 8:50 am

in addition,

It's probably climates of tamriel causing the crash. You just keep that one enabled and try removing the others. If the tesedit doesn't seem to help.

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