i guess, i would not call it pay 2 win as its not required to win but i do see how some would be upset. i am kind of expecting something along the line of a mount and/or pet. there needs to be something good for players who pay extra money but those items do not make a game pay 2 win. now if they give away another playable race, well then thats pretty damn bad and i agree that they lose a lot of cred

i still dont understand the rings. i remember them saying something about how you earn more xp if married but i just figured everyone would "marry" whoever they played with the most and get bonus xp

Can you have multiple rings with multiple people?

As per The Sage at E3

http://www.tesoelite.com/2013/06/e3-eso-coverage-gamespot/

The OP is pessimistically assuming that if the image is not a fake, the included rings enable marriage and that is the ONLY way to marry in-game. Even if it's real I find that highly unlikely. But I am sure this thread will be locked like the others, since clearly it is yet another thread packed with rumor and rampant speculation

you guys remember when that guy posted pictures of the skyrim handbook? it was later discovered he was working on the assembly line to pack the skyrim packages. this picture is not fake. but the wording might be

Over half the threads on this forum are rumor and rampant speculation

I linked a description from Paul Sage about in game marriage up there ^^^

But no seriously, does the mudcrab act as a merchant?

Is it bad if

IF i actually REALLY want that mudcrab pet......

hahahahahaha allows 10,000 septims during transactions like the one in morrowind

ONLY if it's not a merchant.

agreed, i just want it to have as a pet.

haha yeah that is kinda kool

Sorry, vanity pets ruin my immershunz...

Yeah, but that might have changed

I'm just thankful it's not Alduin as a mini-pet. Big sigh of relief that it's just a normal animal.

Current as of December, close enough for you?

thanks. from what that says it seems anyone can do it and not just CE owners

i want it too. say what you want but i like collecting mounts and pets. the mudcrab is the perfect pet btw, probably the most famous mob in game. a pet cliff racer would also be cool lol

i took a long look at that. and i heard rumers it was around $130 to $150 US .. if thats the case i wont be purchasing it since that would be around $300 since i plan to get collectors for both me and my wife.

i was expecting atleast early access or something a bit more. especially since i wanted ingame items only and no book or statue that collects dust. for 300 buks i prefer some serious ingame items that will be rare and i can have bragging rights to. or atleast be able show off ingame.

i love the mud crab and the horse and the rings but i dont think that justifies the assumed cost. and yes, you guys are right, it's totaly speculation, and rumer.

My thinking was that if the marketing types are just now working out what is going in the collectors' editions, that might be a reason for an even more recent change. But I don't EXPECT that's the case. I just don't assume it isn't, heh.

early access is the only thing i dont want CE to have. well i thought anyway. that and an additional playable race i guess

why wouldnt you want early access? even 1 day? avoid all the spam from launch and

I'd be much cooler with early access than with a new race and a horse right outta the gate.

i guess for the same reason people dont want to see a free horse? i dont feel people spending more money should get such a large advantage over everyone else.