54 mods, massive slowdown : V

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:51 pm

Getting back to skyrim after quite a while.

I used to use wrye bash, but started with mod organizer this turn, it seems to work great. I added a couple mods, and ran at around 30-40 fps, with occasional dips into the high 20s.

As soon as i add a 54th mod however, the framerate doesn't get above 20, let alone higher. Any idea what the cause is? any idea how i can fix it?

No matter what mod i add, it drops. I've tried with gildegreen regrown, the paarthunax dilemma, and a few others. They all have the same effect.

edit:

Active Mod Files:

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00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]03  Dawnguard.esm04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]05  HearthFires.esm06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]07  Dragonborn.esm08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.1]09  Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm0A  HighResTexturePack01.esp0B  HighResTexturePack02.esp0C  HighResTexturePack03.esp0D  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.5]0E  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp0F  ADS.esp10  AOS.esp11  AOS_DGDB Patch.esp12  BWS.esp13  Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp14  AOS_ICS Patch.esp15  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp16  StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp17  TradeBarter.esp18  Dead Body Collision.esp19  fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp  [Version 1.0]1A  Moss Rocks.esp1B  Moss Rocks_DB.esp1C  ORM-Arvak.esp1D  PilgrimsDelight.esp1E  Point The Way.esp  [Version 1.0.2]1F  Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp20  SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp  [Version 1.1]21  NoxUE2.00.esp22  RaceMenu.esp23  RaceMenuPlugin.esp24  SkyUI.esp25  Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp26  Distant DetailHF.esp27  DiversePriests.esp28  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp29  SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp2A  Soul Gems Differ - E.esp2B  dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp2C  Beards.esp2D  Brows.esp2E  SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp  [Version 1.8]2F  DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp30  RealisticWaterTwo.esp31  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp32  AOS_RWT Patch.esp33  AOS_ADS Patch.esp34  DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp35  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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specs are:

AMD Phenom II X4 black edition 955

8 gig ram

AMD radeon 7870

running 2560x1440

I use boss, and wrye for the bashed patch. I'm also running ENBoost and SKSE.

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:14 pm

We need pc specs?

We need a list of Mods and do you use Boss?

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:38 am

D'oh, forgot to add. Added.

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:43 am

Did you change some of your .ini settings ?

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:11 am

Skyrim Flora Overhaul and Distant Detail mods may be giving you lower FPS, those add alot

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:10 pm

SMIM is power hungry. If you add distand detail AND HD tekstures, then all bridges, mills, etc will be loaded; textures, light and shadow will be applied, even if you can't actually see them SmIM will force it to even better quality, but you will not see it from far away. This combination is just too much for game engine.

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:05 am

This doesn't make any sense. There's no way Gildegreen or Paarthunax does that to your framerate, and there's no way just adding a 54th mod, no matter what it is, does that either. You're going to have to do some rigorous testing to figure out what's going on.

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:56 am

I'll remove the mentioned mods. In the meantime i'll go on building my collection, and see what happens.

For the record, this is what my ini looks like:

skyrim.ini:

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[General]

sLanguage=ENGLISH

sIntroSequence=

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

fFlickeringLightDistance=8192

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048

bAllowScreenshot=0

fSunShadowUpdateTime=0

fSunUpdateThreshold=2.0

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass=1

bAllowLoadGrass=0

iMinGrassSize=40

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - Voicesixtra.bsa

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

[Water]

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bReflectLODLand=1

bReflectSky=1

bReflectLODTrees=1

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000

[Camera]

f1st3rdSwitchDelay=0.95

iHorseTransitionMillis=001

[Interface]

fBookOpenTime=200.0

fSafeZoneX=10

fSafeZoneY=10

fSafeZoneXWide=10

fSafeZoneYWide=10

skyrimprefs.ini

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[General]

fBrightLightColorB=1.0000

fBrightLightColorG=1.0000

fBrightLightColorR=1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[Imagespace]

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iShadowSplitCount=2

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fSpecularLODStartFade=1000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000

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iWaterMultiSamples=0

iMultiSample=2

iShadowMode=3

bTreesReceiveShadows=1

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bFull Screen=1

iSize H=1440

iSize W=2560

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fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000

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iScreenShotIndex=2

bShadowMaskZPrepass=0

bMainZPrepass=0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=25

iMaxDecalsPerFrame=100

bFloatPointRenderTarget=1

sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series"

bFXAAEnabled=0

iShadowMapResolution=2048

fShadowBiasScale=0.2500

iShadowMaskQuarter=4

iAdapter=0

iPresentInterval=0

[Grass]

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[MAIN]

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bCrosshairEnabled=1

fHUDOpacity=1.0000

bSaveOnPause=1

bSaveOnTravel=1

bSaveOnWait=1

bSaveOnRest=1

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1

bShowQuestMarkers=1

iDifficulty=2

[Interface]

bDialogueSubtitles=1

bGeneralSubtitles=1

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125

bAlwaysRunByDefault=1

bInvertYValues=0

bGamePadRumble=1

bMouseAcceleration=0

[Particles]

iMaxDesired=750

[SaveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins=15.0000

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000

fVal7=1.0000

uID7=0

fVal6=1.0000

uID6=0

fVal5=1.0000

uID5=0

fVal4=1.0000

uID4=0

fVal3=1.0000

uID3=0

fVal2=0.4000

uID2=466532

fVal1=1.0000

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fVal0=0.8000

uID0=1007612

[Clouds]

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[TerrainManager]

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fBlockMaximumDistance=250000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance=70000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance=35000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult=1.5000

bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha=0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000

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fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000

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fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000

fEdgeThickness=10.0000

fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees=1

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[Decals]

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[LOD]

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[Launcher]

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[BlurShaderHDR]

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[Water]

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iWaterReflectWidth=512

bUseWaterDisplacements=1

bUseWaterRefractions=1

bUseWaterReflections=1

bUseWaterDepth=1

» Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:53 am

Well, not too much for the game engine really (at least with ENBoost etc.). There are lots of people (me included) who run that and more w/o issues. But, yes, it all adds up for less powerful rigs of course.