Yup agreed, I never saw a Redguard in Morrowind, the only race i could choose in Oblivion was Imperial and Skyrim had only Nords...

1. FTP is ridiculous

2. Tab Targeting is ridiculous

3. Spears just seem irrelevent to TES at this point

Whose to say the Aldmeri are above enslaving humans, or using them as servants, or allowing some to "ally" with them. They are supremists, not stupid, humans that further their goals are still useful and that's ignoring the fact that not all Aldmeri likely hate the humans, hell I'd imagine some actually kind of like them, again all of the Dominion is not some giant group think amalgam. Yes it's far harder to justify but with the right amount of time and research I could easily write up a scenario for a human in the Dominion.

The game acknowledging the fact that you are a human is another thing, but let's be honest Skyrim didn't exactly do a stellar job of acknowledging your toons race.

The joke.

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Your head.

Here's the problem: Both sides are right.

Why? Well to start, each faction should be mainly ruled/populated by the races they have.

Now here comes the conflict, each person / race can disagree with the factions and join up to another, or maybe my altmer was born in skyrim or my nord was born in daggerfall, and thats all they know, so yea it makes sense for them to join other factions.

And the problem rises when the aldmeri dominion will be all made of nords and EB be all made of altmer.

>If< (big IF), this happens, then it will be fixed with time, as other people are locked unless they play imperial, but at start this can become a major issue..

I'm not being a pessimist or w/e, but IT IS A POSSIBILITY that the whole faction might not even be represented by their own race at all, and this is why people don't agree with allowing this kind of freedom.

I for one, am neutral, but I do know I would hate to see nords being the majority in all 3 factions, whats left of the lore then? On the other side of the card, I would hate to be restricted to only that faction if i want to play a different race. So I'm conflicted with my own opinion for now.

1. Cross-faction communication, not play. You guild up with the player, not the character.

2. Tamriel actually has very few homogeneous populations, regardless of geographic leadership.

One of the bigger reasons to lift this restriction is for friends who want to play together. makes perfect sense.

Yes, the slave argument. A sound stance to take if we didn't already you won't be treated that way. You'll be treated like the big damn Hero like you always are. If you weren't people would complain even more I think, afterall look how many people were upset that Martin "stole their spotlight" in Oblivion?

I don't see the problem with it. You must understand that this is not a single player game like the other ES games from before (my wife and I are both oblivion/skyrim players). Example being, my wife wants to play one race while I would prefer another. We will be buying the game and paying a sub (which we are both fine with). Why not have at least some options (pre-order, which we have done) so we can both enjoy the game while playing characters that we both will enjoy AND we can group and play together and not be stuck in different factions. This does not break the game in my opinion, it just means that two people can play who they want and play together and HAVE FUN PLAYING A GAME ("game" being the key word there).

Everything I've seen shows a large preference for people playing in their race's faction. The one thing I will add though is those same people voting on the polls and such are also the TES fans who are relatively knowledgeable about the lore. Once the game opens up to the masses, that may add to the number of folk who switch factions.

It is unfortunate how many Dunmer were running around in beta without red eyes :/

Oh hey look another thread about the races. Heres my two cents... The choice of having open race/ to alliance, is better than not having any choice, but having it open to start is bad. K im done, thats enough energy on this.

As ESO is licensed with the lore, anything they say goes and is considered cannon. You can feel free not to like what they are, but 'living lore' can be changed with the license holder as much as they wish.

So, it appears that the AD is focused on ruling, where only fanatical members are/were concerned with domination/extinction.

I dunno, I mean I know online polls are just that and aren't exactly perfect representations of the release game but looking at TESO census the split between the most popular races is fairly even between Dunmer and Altmer (14%) Nord (12%) and Khajiit and Bosmer (10%) and also taking into account the three factions are almost pefectly split even three ways.

An Argonian, an Altmer, and a Breton walked into a tavern in Cyrodiil. The Tavern keeper turned to them and said, "what is this, some kind of joke?"

No, I fully got the joke I promise you. Those debates are just as silly as any debates in a forum.

I disagree. Only people who preorder can choose any alliance. And the majority will stay loyal to the original. And anyone joining later has no choice but the original. So it works out.

Again yes, I agree how the game addresses you as an outsider will likely be poorly presented but none of the recent TES games have done a very good job of race representation in regards to the PCs race you could be an Altmer DB and no one in the province bats an eyelash. Not an excuse but it is the way it is, as a roleplayer I tend to ignore the main quest anyway so that aspect of the problem really won't phase me very much.

Perhaps their fathers werent Dunmer and it bled through a little bit

I think the correct way should have been to have Three Houses and have each person choose which House they wanted to join.

"I like this human, he understands". At my core I am also of two minds, for the reasons stated. I understand the opposing argument, and in some ways agree with it. But overall it just rubs me wrong.