Why a Stormcloak win should be canon

Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:10 am

*sigh* Is there really so little understanding of Bethesdas methods on this forum? There won't be a canon outcome. That's not how Beth writes. TES6 will be set either to far away, or to far in the future for anybody to know/care how Skyrim's civil war ended.

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Alyce Argabright
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:39 pm

The Dragonborn is indeed a Khajiit.

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Brooke Turner
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:29 am

Correct. :tops:

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Taylah Illies
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:49 pm

And then what? They would loose the opportunity for a great conflict in the next game after you end the Skyrim one with a setup for the dominion to take over. Worst of it is, the player never was part of it. Like the first great war. Then you get to educate yourself all over again hearing or reading about an awesome event instead of experiencing it. I prefer to be part of it. Then what conflict could you have in the next game? Instead of something new, "Th Dwemer return, and they want vengeance! You!, the Dwemerine are the only one that can stop them"... boring. Let me take part in a massive rebellion against the dominion or let me join them by writing how much better the world is with them in charge or something. They turned a lot of players to not like the empire and the blades. They can write something that could even make them like the dominion.

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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:35 pm

I have my http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1469980-afterthoughts-on-the-stormcloak-rebellion/. Just some conjecture based on the available information, but it seems to follow the narrative over the last few games.

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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:32 am

Because otherwise a lot of people will ragequit from the series.

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adame
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:14 pm

I doubt that the conflict in Skyrim (or anything that happened in Skyrim in general) will be directly referenced in the next game...And I predict, by the end of that game, Tamriel will be in another 2nd era-esque interregnum and all the provinces will be independent anyhow.

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Sophie Miller
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:11 am

:lmao: Won't happen OP. In fact the beginning of the game tells me all I need to know on who 'should' win. There isn't going to be a win however, somethings going to happen to make a winner irrelevant.

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Makenna Nomad
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:21 pm

How?

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Dylan Markese
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:27 am

Regardless of what 'should' happen, the one fact is that whether the Stormcloaks win or the Empire, Jarl Elisif the Fair lives. Add to that the fact that you never actually see the Moot and Ulfric get crowned, it makes it very easy for Bethesda to write in an Empire win for history, since even if you play so that the Stormcloaks win in the game, the history can just tell that the Empire fought back and recaptured Skyrim and killed Ulfric. They wouldn't be able to do that if Elisif got killed in the game (well they could, but it would be like Leliana coming back to life in DA2 ... and that went over so well).

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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:08 am

Agreed, I see this happening very much so. Or maybe the war plays out between games and the Empire and AD basically destroy each other and it goes from a sort of ancient world setting to a medieval setting with the rise of each nation and its attempts to expand and whatnot. (Ancient roman empire falling and the rise of the british, french, german, prussian, etc nations as more powerful independent nations)

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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:34 am

The theory in advanced in my idea for ES VI is that it's set in Summerset, and no one's really quite sure who won (the treaty, reunification, and liberation are all theories). And it doesn't matter.

If Ulfric won, then after a period of mutual sulking in which Skyrim went hungry and Cyrodiil went without timber and fur, the two provinces reestablished trade. Skyrim managed its own affairs, Cyrodiil became complacent and corrupt, and eventually fell into near-anarchy. The Aldmeri ultimately took it over.

If the Empire won, or if a treaty was made, incompetent leadership caused Cyrodiil to descend into turmoil. Skyrim and High Rock had to manage their own affairs as best they could. The Aldmeri ultimately took over Cyrodiil.

Either way, they overran Morrowind and High Rock easily, separating Hammerfell, Skyrim, and Black Marsh. Hammerfell fought them for a long time, but without a source of food (you can't grow crops in a desert), they were overcome by famine and had to surrender. Black Marsh fared better, proving a logistical nightmare for the Aldmeri. And the Skyrim-Orsinum alliance was the worst of all. However, the Dominion ultimately owns Tamriel. And that's where ES VI begins...

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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:40 pm

Check the link in the siggy. :thumbsup: That's the one and only thing I need to know about who 'should' win.

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Cameron Garrod
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:27 pm

And people have already gone over that many times....

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Nicole Kraus
 
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Post » Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:52 am

Lol, I agree to a point. That image is powerful for sure and is pretty much my interpretation of the civil war without player involvement, that being said I still wanted other reasons to finalize my siding with the Empire. Which I found and thus did.

The catch is really that the civil war being the first real up for debate aspect of an elder scrolls game, its hard to define canon regardless. Seriously it is more likely that the civil war will be mentioned little or that the events of the DB will be more a factor than either side. I imagine the treaty path will be the canon approach, whatever that means in the end.

Side note, Trannigan...your avatar seems oddly creepier with that face over Vlad's. Lol

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