Did you just imply that f2p fans are socialist? With logic like that, it is indeed impossible to argue with you.

On topic: p2p, f2p, I don't care what it is. Path of exile is f2p and it's not even remotely pay 2 win. the cash shop is entirely cosmetic (with one exception of added stash tabs if you really want). FF14 is sub based, and if they continue adding content, it'll be worth it for me at least. TESO will be the same way. the one problem for me is that so far, I'm not impressed. Nothing I have seen makes me think that they'll be able to provide more content than I can already get from TES, and be a better mmo than WoW, EVE, etc. If they prove they have something different? That's when I'll jump on board.

If its not about money then why are you even looking at TESO? If it already doesn't meet your requirements why are you here? Im amazed at the amount of time people put into trying to rally others to their cause when its obvious your not going to play this game.IF im way off then pls correct me but as you said there are better games for you to spend money on so pls clarify your motivation.

I'd love to see payment options for 3 month, 6 month, 12 month etc. I find that before I cancelled my TOR monthly sub I felt like I "had" to do something to justify the $15 whereas with my LOTRO account (yearly) I don't feel the same way. Once a year I get billed and then Middle Earth is there whenever I decide to return to it. Had I known when it launched that I'd still be playing it periodically down the road I would have went for the lifetime membership

I hope ESO offers similar.