REALLY really really hope they can make it work. This is one aspect that makes the combat feel "off" the way you pass through enemies, etc.

If they can get it working for PVP without a huge performance hit (and not griefer friendly, IE friendly people can pass through each other or can crouch to pass through like in AOC) that'd be great.

*explodes*

Enemies fine. players? Not so much.

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

No comment.

Good move. I hope it sticks as well. MMO's in general should bring collision detection (with enemies) back. Although with the enormous amount of space to move in most areas, it's probably still going to be of lesser importance compared to older games where cramped hallways were commonplace. Particularly in dungeons.

Crouch to pass through? That just seems pathetic...

Being able to hold a shield line would make RvR a lot more interesting.

Wonder if the FPS doesn't drop will they add players, if they can do it with minimum cpu cost then why not BUT if it hurts FPS and turns into a slide show in PvP I'd settle for what we got now.

So far according to that reddit it's on for NPC enemies only at the moment, not other players.

They are probably testing it out seeing what kind of performance it takes/bandwidth and things, then might try it on players (in pvp at least).

I would really really like to see CD in PVP, it makes tanks actually important and also puts importance on chokepoints and terrain.

There are many ways around the "Trolling" aspect (IE your own people blocking you), just make cd off for friendlies (same alliance) or do like age of conan and have it let you crouch and pass through them.

They already constantly have to check range between players to see if certain spells can be cast. The only extra processing power required is to resolve the collisions themselves and those will happen on significantly less frames than the range checks will.

its for PVE enemies, not players in pvp. just a heads up.

It just says enemy npcs not players?

Sounds great! The game designers are really going all out for the players in this.

With enemy npc's it isn't hard and I already noticed in the previous beta that mobs already move in a way to avoid as best possible to NOT pass through you, they were already scripted like that.

But player collision? It just too much hassle, I really hope they won't bother with it, because if they test player collision and it fails, there will be a HUGE uproar to bring it back.... so.. "Can't miss what we don't have" better imho.

I wouldnt mind it if it was just enemy in cyrodiil but if it has to come at the expense of performance then just no no way i'd rather it stay as it is.

I just hope they don't add it for players. At all. Ever.

No proof so I don't believe it. If true then hooray. Though I was getting used to rolling through mobs to get behind them in the last beta.

EDIT: I see confirmations but still no video, optimistic but skeptical.

Why not?

If enemies try to troll you and get you stuck, you can just kill them.

If collision detection effects performance in PVP with it's thousands of players it's not worth it at all.

PVE it's a different story.

And there's even PTS people who don't even understand what NDA means...

*sigh*

CD is nice, but this is something that should have been added months ago. Doing it around 35 days from launch is pushing it quite a bit.

Not a big deal for me, in any case.

Sincerely hope they do, it'll be very weird to be fighting mobs with collision in Cyro and then players without.

Of course, they'd need to have a contingency for friendlies like push-through or jump-over so people can't troll with it. It boggles my mind when devs put in collision detection and do not account for trolling and griefing. Palm meet face.

Even if they don't have it perfected for release, they can always add it later or even expand it to the players.

So much for having to rewrite the whole engine from the ground up, eh guys?

You are assuming that it always works, it works completely, and its going to stay in.

And this is closed, because as far as I can tell, the nda is still in effect for the closed beta.