I get you dont like add-ons, i dont either, i think its okay for VISUALS and by that i mean graphical stuff, but i dont WANT to have to use an add-on to improve anything. But please, please, stop using hiding behind a rock or wall as some sort of an argument as to why you shouldnt have it in pvp, you are making us ALL look not-smart

The game has the biggest, fattest, most obnoxious third person perspective with the widest field of view i have ever seen, the character only takes up about 1/20 of the screen.

Linked is a video of a person who puts it into far better terms than i

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7zoVIsIT2A

In a few words, you hiding behind a rock/wall is about as much a cheat as one of these add ons, since your third person perspective lets you see over the rock/wall without actually revealing yourself to do so

Lol, third person is cheating now? Holy crap its like I'm in the Twilight Zone.

what is your point exactly? That third person is cheating? or people are using that as an excuse to eliminate add-ons? ...O.o

ROFL. Next they are gonna tell me I cheat pissing since I can stand up

Not sure if trolling or just lacking in reading comprehension.

Why dont you read the post again and find out!

Boy this thread came out of left field.

I find the video quite well done.

But it can't apply to ESO since, ESO was planned to be ONLY played in 3rd person, they've added 1st person at the community's request, every single aspect of the game is for 3rd person though.

So PvP may take the hit, but pve shouldn't, if you want to enjoy first person.

Try to formulated your post a bit better next time as your not making much sense.

This pretty much sums it up 100%.

So if I play an Imperial using 3rd person does that mean I win everything?

Judging by the other responses in this thread, I don't think its me.

Can someone give me the short version of this because i cant fathom it? Hiding behind a rock?. Add one are coming to the ui for those who choose to use them. People need to reconcile with that fact. It wont change.

Only if you use an addon that lets you see your enemy's magicka and stamina bars! Also they need to have a cast bar with a pop up that shows the exact same things that are already built into the base UI.

Then you become Emperor.

OMG it's quite simple. if you hide behind rocks, you can't use addons... no.. hang on, i've got this...

If you hide rocks from your addons then addons will... nope...

Erm... If rocks hide your addons then you'll own in PvP? Is that it? No...

You are cheating if you hide your addons behind rocks?

... I give up

Don't forget the OP mudcrab pet.

ya know for a split second i thought you was serious lol. I still cant figure this rocks and add on things. Is it some kind of metaphor? Lol

Sweet! Maybe I can have something that tells me with an onscreen prompt when the optimal time to use my skills is so I can just pay attention to that and not the actual game!

I will admit, it never fails to amuse me what new things people will find to complain about in a game that hasn't even been released yet. What did people do back in the day when they heard a game would be coming out and there was no way to complain to complete strangers in a public way?

You sound like you're completely new to mmos?

Welcome to the truth and welcome to what proper gameplay feels like instead of this first person "immersion" you so long have dwelled in your years in Skyrim.

Some people on this forum really needs a wakeup call really. This game is just as much an mmo as it is an ES game and all the MMO pros weigh way more than anything else.

Okay Okay, I think I got this. Are you saying that 3rd person view is the same as using an add-on? They're both cheating in a way? And that's....bad?

I think he's saying that the third person view angle allows you to see whether anyone is hiding behind a rock, so the PvP addons that do the same thing are relatively useless. Of course, I could have read that wrong as he didn't word it very well, let's face it.

Oooh yes. Kinda like a $15 per month Whack-A-Mole?!

As soon as you leave Cold Harbor you will be crowned emperor