CTD at startup, newbie looking for help : V

» Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:51 am

Game was running great last week, today I deleted my saves then updated some mods and now I CTD at title screen... I have no idea how to find out which mod is causing the problem but I will start un-installing one at a time and see if I can figure it out. If someone can look at this list and spot the problem let me know please!

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Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
- Contains dirty edits: 92 ITM, 3 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
Dawnguard.esm Active
- Contains dirty edits: 619 ITM, 82 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
HearthFires.esm Active
- Contains dirty edits: 184 ITM, 11 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
Dragonborn.esm Active
- Contains dirty edits: 61 ITM, 8 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
ApachiiHair.esm Active
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Active
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}
HighResTexturePack01.esp Active
HighResTexturePack02.esp Active
HighResTexturePack03.esp Active
Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Active
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
randomthunder.esp Active
mintylightningmod.esp Active
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active
Dead Body Collision.esp Active
Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active
- Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
ImprovedSkillBooks.esp Active
Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp Active
Book Covers Skyrim.esp Active
ShootingStars.esp Active
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active
Unique BOOZE Bottles.esp Active
Convenient Horses.esp Active
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Active
Footprints.esp Active
RaceMenu.esp Active
RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active
- Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, briast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
WetandCold.esp Active
SkyUI.esp Active
iHUD.esp Active
AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp Active
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}
Cloaks.esp Active
- Contains dirty edits: 2 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
- Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Relev}}
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
Differently Ebony.esp Active
Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp Active
- Note: Use Smithing Perks Overhaul - Balanced.esp with Complete Crafting Overhaul.
Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp Active
- Note: Will conflict with mods that modify existing recipes.
Run For Your Lives.esp Active
When Vampires Attack.esp Active
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active
Headtracking.esp Active
SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp Active
- Note: Uninstall old version of Skyrim Flora Overhaul if using SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Active
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active
UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp Active
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp Active
Imp's More Complex Needs.esp Active
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp Active
- Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
ABT - Faster Arrows Improved +100%.esp Active
ABT - Faster Bolts Improved +100%.esp Active
ABT - Progressive Damage (Vanilla).esp Active
ABT - Bolts Renamed for BS and CCO.esp Active
vImmersiveBeds.esp Active
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp Active
3DNPC.esp Active
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
- Note: For safe install need dismiss all your followers, save, delete all included mods, load again, save and install UFO. For safe uninstall or update see special instructions on http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/14037.
- Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp Active
- Contains dirty edits: 18 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp Active
- Contains dirty edits: 29 ITM, 18 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active
- Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16712 for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp Active
- Contains dirty edits: 6 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859 cleaning. A cleaning guide is available http://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit.
Purewaters.esp Active
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp Active

» Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:30 pm

Oh, I did have a GeForce driver update this morning... wonder if that could be the issue...

» Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:16 am

> I deleted my saves then updated some mods <

What you mean, why you deleted all your saves. ???

You updated some mod's, on a new character with a new save ???

» Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:28 am

I'm noobish at troubleshooting mods myself, but the first thing I'd try is:

Verify the integrity of your game files through Steam;
Use TES5Edit to clean the official Update and DLC .esm files (and anything else with dirty edits unless the modder says the dirty edits are needed (e.g. Better Vampires);
Start the game through Steam once (even if you use SKSE or another launcher). You don't have to actually play; you can just hit "Exit" once the launcher has done its initialization. If you don't do this after step 1, BOSS won't recognize Skyrim.
Run BOSS again to verify.

I know it sounds weird, but the dirty edits in the official game files can muck things up when using mods. If any of your mod updates introduced conflicts with those dirty edits, that could explain your sudden CTDs.

» Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:12 am

I deleted my saved games a couple days ago in prep for a clean playthrough... I think it has to do with Dual Sheath Redux as the game would boot when I unchecked that ESP... I tried uninstalling it but I think there might be left over scripts somewhere... I deleted the folder the mod author mentions in the uninstallation instructions but back to CTDing.... grrrrr

» Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:46 am

Thanks! I think I got it working... Dual Shealth had a esp. file hiding... once I tracked down everything connected to that mod I think I'm good... what probably happened is after updating some weapon mods I didn't run the patcher associated with DsRedux again (how am I to remember to do that).... thanks for all the advice!

» Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:28 pm

Glad it worked out! Yeah, I find I have to keep a little notepad file in my mods folder reminding me what I need to do after adding or updating certain types of mods. To think there was once a time where I avoided mods like the plague...

» Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:05 pm

ChosenFrozen

Yes. Immediate CTD even before seeing the Beth Logo or the main menu, is very often associated with either missing or incorrectly installed assets of a mod, as you have found out (other example, you have installed the XYZ.esp but did not install the XYZ.bsa, or the XYZ.esm if there is one). So that is always a good and easy place to start troubleshooting if you get this kind of CTD's.

Old graphics drivers is one of the least likely candidates to give Skyrim problems ever (unless maybe you use some modern ENB, but even then I would say), simply because Skyrim is an old game today, and any drivers newer than say January 2012 should be able to handle it quite competently or at least start it.