Morality - killing or sparing Sinding.

Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:16 pm

I'm playing my character as a Wood Elf with steadfast "good" morals. He has only one single murder on his record, which is that of Thonar Silver-Blood, but that only for the protection and integrity of Markarth. When forced with Molag Bal's orders to kill Logrolf, he complied - as he saw killing him better than simply leaving him chained there to rot, however - using a black soul gem (Yes, they're considered wrong as well - but the lesser of two evils here) to prevent his soul from being captured by Molag Bal. Even though he managed to get one over a Daedra, he still felt tarnished, by that, the killing of the leader of the Forsworn, and while he was evil - the murder of Thonar. So, he walked barefoot up and down the steps of High Hrothgar, and then distroyed Thonar's ring, the Weapon used to kill Logrolf (with his soul attached), and Molag's Mace. He also swore not to be a pawn in the games of the Daedra again...

Thus I'm brought to the dilemma of killing Sinding - yes, he killed the girl, but he was under the influence of the cursed ring, and he seemed to regret it... but at the same time, he may have been lying aout the ring making him more unpredictable... and he may still just be as dangerous and deserves to die. But at the same time it was at the request of a Daedra that I have to kill him... and as I said - I refuse to be pieces in this vast, demonic game that they play with us mortals. So... it begs the question - what do I do? Do I be merciful, and let him live? Or do I kill him in payment of his deeds? Which would you say is more moral, and which, from a RP perspective, fits with my character?

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Enie van Bied
 
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Post » Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:41 am

Thonar Silver-Blood doesn't count as murder, it counts as vandalism of a perfectly good floor.

And I really hate to say this, but black soul gems just get the soul sent to the Soul Cairn in the end. Still arguably better than Molag Bal (that priest was just screwed...) but still pretty horrendous, and probably worse.

As for Sinding, he is going to Hircine anyway: why make everyone wait at the risk of innocent deaths? Kill him - stop him killing others in your fulfillment of the inevitable.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:08 pm

It's bad, sure. But how, in the name of peace and sanity, is it worse? Yes, the Soul Cairn is pretty Bad, but at least it isn't an eternity of unrelenting torture by Molag Bal until you eventually go insane. Like I said, it was easily the lesser of two evils - I spared him from Molag Bal - and in doing so managed to cheat him out of a soul. It was the only other option my character saw, other than leaving him there to rot - where Bal would likely just find someone else to do it, who may not be as willing to cheat Molag. And, like I said - my character did penance after. Walked all the way from Markarth to High Hrothgar, all the way back down, and to the Aetherium forge to destroy the mace and the weapon used to kill him. In nothing but rags. Barefoot. Without killing anything on the way. To my mind, it was perfectly in line with my character.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:51 pm

Maybe I'm just a wee bit mental, but I'd prefer torture to inactivity. With inactivity, your mind and sense of self would eventually just die. And Molag Bal's bound to tire of torturing one hapless priest eventually, he's got others coming in left, right, and centre, and most importantly is willing to bargain for the release of a soul either with an intrepid mage or Boethiah herself. He is in lore, anyway. There's a chance (if we're talking eternity, a guarantee) that Logrolf will find his way out of Bal's clutches; with the Soul Cairn he'll have no such luck.

Oh, and, for the poll: Sinding is going to die, and also going to Hircine. In the time it takes for that to happen, it's almost a certainty that he, as a werewolf, will kill innocents. By killing him, you stop that, and incur no other negative consequences that wouldn't have occured had you done otherwise.

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Post » Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:19 am

Either way, my "character" - from a RP perspective - remains steadfast in what he did - as he hates Molag Bal, and hates the Daedra in general. He managed to outsmart one, and did penance still for killing a person whom he wished not to. At the time, he was unaware of any lore surrounding Bal. Nor, was he aware of the conditions within the soul Cairn. So, yeah. He stands by what he did - even if he does one day realise that it may not have been the best choice for Logrolf. It got one over a Daedra, and he sees that as a victory in and of itself. Anyway, I think this is going a bit too far. I'm not going to go back to before I killed him and redo it, so there's not much point in debating over it. XD And with regards to your response to the main question - fair point, but I'll see what other people say in response to it as well.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:03 pm

Anyway - my character - and I, for that matter - would place Torture at the hands of Molag Bal as worse than inactivity. And I'd say having led someone to that torture would be worse than leading them to the aforementioned inactivity - so from that perspective I see my decision as better as well.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:17 pm

Based on what I know of him, I'd probably spare him.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:45 pm

Uh, werewolves go to Hircine, Vampires go to Molag Bal.
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:42 pm

One thing's for sure: Logrolf was screwed :D

And Sinding's a werewolf.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:53 pm

Whoops, my half asleep mind got all confused xD

Anyway, spare him. Dude isn't happy as a werewolf so he probably doesn't want to spend eternity as one.
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:28 pm

Dying is easy. I always let em live with what he's done in the hopes that one day, He can make up for it..In some way.

Spare him is my vote.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:40 pm

It would seem fairer, in the context at least - to me, to free him. As a forgiving person, my character is more likely to believe what he says than kill him - despite his claims. Even if it may not turn out for the best in the long run, my character can't really depend on that, can he - being the person that he is. He's the kind of guy who'd always go for a shot at redemption over a shot in the face with an arrow.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:55 pm

In my opinion, he needs to be put down. I'm not necessarily inclined to believe him when he says that he will stay away from people. Additionally, skinning him results in being rewarded with a nice looking piece of armor. :D

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Post » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:31 am

I always spare him; Catholicism might not exist in Tamriel, but I can't play by anything other than the strict moral code to which I choose to adhere in real life. It's no fun and thoroughly unrewarding.

That said, I always spare him. Gallowglass makes the one rational argument for killing him, and that does cross my mind from time to time. But, the Circle is proof that not all werewolves hunt innocents, especially when they're not under the influence of a cursed ring. With that ring removed from the picture and Sinding unarguably repentant of his crime, I'd feel like hell if any of my characters killed him.

The Savior's Hide isn't bad looking, a rarity for unique armor in Skyrim, but it's not worth killing Sinding for. I'd just reward myself with it via the console after finishing the quest, were I on PC.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:17 pm

Any vile beast needs to be put down, even myself one day. Skin him and get some nice armor.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:31 pm

The choice is too obvious, especially because Sinding already finds a solution by isolating himself in Bloated Man's grotto.

And well, leave it to your more neutral or evil inclined characters to be merciless.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:34 pm

He is not Himself when the changes come, and deserves the Bitter Mercy of a quick death.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:14 pm

Dont know what to vote, first time i met him, i killed his beast form and let his human form live, and it wasnt till later in the game i decided to look into his mysterious clone, i also encountered this everytime i have met him since, but i havent started his quest since i got legendary edition, has this been patched in it?
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:41 pm

I always spare him. A life in self-exile is still a life, and maybe he can find a new existence. While he may "Deserve" a swift death, it's not my judgement to make - I cannot turn away those who seek redemption and penance. Also, he put his trust in me, and I shall not betray that. He's found a nice place to live - It's far from any population centers, with lots of feral game for him to hunt - even if he needs to hunt People, the area is rife with those who've turned to banditry.

Instead, I visit him regularly to make sure he's well and still sane.

Actually - I just help him, murder him for his hide, then get the ring uncursed. Miraculously he comes back to life, and I get two daedric artifacts!
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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:30 pm

Either way, you're servicing him.

Spare him, return to Hircine. Return to him and kill him, then return to Hircine again.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 3:53 pm

You should put a third option for the poll: Decide for yourself. You should decide your character's morality on your own, getting opinions this way makes the decision less genuine. Even if you think later the choice you made at the time may have been wrong, you'd still have to live with it and it would develop the character further as he deals with his choices.

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Post » Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:31 pm

Sinding could not control his beast blood. He killed and ate a young innocent girl. For that crime alone he deserved to die. Being a werewolf had nothing to do with it. For those that say "Oh the beast blood made him do it." need to ask themselves had he done that in human form... would they spare him too? Oh maybe it was the mead?

Sorry I don't buy that. Sinding killed an innocent girl... While I am favorable to werewolves... I always put him down.

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