CELTIC Languages

Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:31 am

A place to explore Gaelic (both kinds)

Since they are the formative languages of many ethos and myths that the games explore...

~And since the DWEMER seem to be the original SCOTTS!

Tha mi toilichte ur coinneachadh is I'm glad we met/pleased to have met you

~Given to me by one who cares

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Evaa
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:43 am

Manx Gaels would want me to tell you your opening sentence greatly perturbs both of them :D

Got to be me more people of Highland, Irish, or Manx ancestry out there somewhere. Come on, fellas. Make yourselves known.

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Johanna Van Drunick
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:40 pm

Was ist das "MANX"?

I can apologise only if I knew what I had done is wrong somehow -

You are my teacher, correct me.

Have you taught me to annoy others?

I can appreciate the humor - when later I understand it...

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ashleigh bryden
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:53 am

Ah, it's no problem, man :wink: Manx is the third type of Gaelic, that died out on the Isle of Man then got resuscitated in the 1970s.

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Sarah Bishop
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:07 am

(?)

I thought the Isle of Mann was a barren place, like a shoal...

So a following came to be to bring it back?

Pete Townsend of the WHO wrote a song about a guy who was buried up to his neck there...

What was he talking about?

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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:18 pm

The Isle of Man's pretty big, actually, it's the one right in the middle of the Irish Sea between Ireland and Great Britain. Eighty thousand people, population.

And when the language died, people more or less instantly realised they shouldn't have let it happen, so they started a campaign to get it going again with people speaking it in their homes so as to make a new set of native speakers and then establishing schools where it was taught. There's three hundred native speakers now, and a couple thousand fluent non-natives.

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Nany Smith
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:17 pm

So now we have a "LOST GAELIC" that is even different from the rest....

Do they share anything in common?

*I wonder how it can be that in such a small place geographically - languages can so differ.

What is the gaelic for "Excuse me - I don't understand?"

*I am copying this to my notes, so that I can look at it again if I have to. I learn slowly

Seperate words are easier to pick up - but I am trying.

I should know the difference between scott and Irish - that could be important later...

I think the most important words to know in any language are:

Excuse me

Hello

Thank you

Where is the bathroom

Can you help me?

What is...

How do you say

Since most gaelic speaking people also speak English - this is not necessary.

Except to someone who cares about it.

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Averielle Garcia
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:14 pm

Well none of them are completely mutually intelligible apart from geographically close dialects, but they're all similar enough. Irish and Highland Gaelic, slightly closer than English and German to each other, as they only really became separate at all after the 16th century. Manx is a bit further apart as it's the one with the most Brythonic influence, but it's closer to Irish.

EDIT: Chan eil mi a' tuigsinn. (chan yil mee u-took-shin). It's easier to start with real basics than whole phrases, though.

EDIT 2: Gabhaibh mo leisgeul = excuse me.

Halo = hello.

Tapadh leibh/leat = thank you.

Càit a bheil an taigh beag = where's the loo?

Dè = what is?

Dè Ghàidhlig ... a thair = what is ... in Gaelic?

I can't see you've edited your posts, no notifcation comes up for that, only for new posts :P

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Jonathan Montero
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:48 pm

And almost all Gaels can speak English, but then again so can most Germans. It's spoken because it is at the end of the day their native language, they feel most comfortable with it.

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Marina Leigh
 
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Post » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:01 am

I'll give you time - I'm about to go to sleep myself.

I'll look again tomorrow...

~Ciao, and may the dreams you have be worth something in the morning!

THIS!

It is better than anything I expected to find here....

You are wonderful!

THANK YOU!

~Dutch

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Joie Perez
 
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Post » Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:45 am

Always a pleasure to help, pal. Just doing my bit to keep a language alive. I'm not sure how I manage to always attract like-minded folk, but I'll never complain ;)

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Pawel Platek
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:46 am


And what about Welsh? It's not Gaelic, but it is most definitely Celtic.

(Personally I don't care, btw. But the Welsh might... and they a fierce people who will sing at you if you annoy them.)
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Richard Thompson
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:11 am

When we look out into the stars, and then look around ourselves

We can at times feel so small...

But when we touch someone else, and share

Something happens

You did that for me!

Thank you

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Darlene Delk
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:47 pm

I neglected to mention that my Poppa was "HALB WELSH"

~ He never talked about it, except to say that they made models in bottles, while the German side of the family raised houses and barns....

My father was an arrogant man

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Adrian Powers
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:32 am

Actually, yeah...totally forgot about the Welsh. And the Cornish. And Cumbric even though that's dead. But, hey, this is a TES site. And the Bretons have a whole race named after them. So there's that :wink:

Thanks, man, it means a lot to know one of my stranger talents is appreciated :D

I reckon the survival and importance of Celtic languages would actually make quite a decent discussion thread, might as well make that thread this one.

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Brandi Norton
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:35 pm


Yeah. :laugh: I live next door to a Welsh chap, a retired physics teacher who's quite keen on the Welsh language as well as being a rugby coach and keen leek-grower! Cool guy.
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rheanna bruining
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:23 pm

*Scots

"Scott" is a boys name...

I think Gaelic is coming back in the North of Scotland. It's always been there but I think it's becoming more prominent now once people realised it was dying.

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Jason Wolf
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 3:59 pm

I'm glad I did something good tonight

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Danny Warner
 
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Post » Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:51 pm

I'm glad I did something good this morning ;) Makes a change.

Slightly seconded. The raw numbers went down in the latest census, by five thousand, but the decrease is stabilising and Gaelic medium education isn't going anywhere. If Manx can come back from the dead, Gaelic can almost certainly be saved from it.

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