So in other words, instead of punishing her for a few moments, and it works for a few weeks, I should basically take away EVERYTHING she has, and completely eliminate the fun there is to being a kid, for weeks or months at a time, in the slim hope that she behaves? That sounds far more severe and less worthwhile then getting her to behave for a few weeks with a simple spanking. Sorry, but you aren't going to change my mind whatsoever. My dad was given corporal punishment as a child, and he's the nicest, kindest, most upstanding male I've ever met in my entire lifetime, bar NOONE. I was given corporal punishment as a child, and besides a short year and a half stint from age 18 to almost 20 of very rebellious nature, I've become very much like him. Soo, yeah I'm leaning towards corporal punishment as actually working.