Very Low FPS when around NPC's only

Post » Mon May 10, 2010 1:43 pm

I can have the game maxed out easily and all that and it runs fine that is till I run near a NPC then all hell breaks loose. It seems fine around non-combatant NPC's but once in combat it gets even worse then it already is. I saw in another thread that I should lower my res and I did so and it helped just a tad but it is still that and noticable. Any ideas?
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System Information
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Time of this report: 1/9/2011, 21:07:25
Machine name: USER-C0E8DB9670
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.100427-1636)
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Sound Devices
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helliehexx
 
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Post » Mon May 10, 2010 9:45 am

It's mostly due to the AI being a huge memory hog in this game. Being around a lot of NPCs processing their AI packages all at once is guaranteed to send your FPS plummeting.

Not much that can be done about it, unfortunately. The Radiant AI coding is just another of the badly optimized portions of this game. Granted, Bethesda was building this game for next-gen hardware at the time, so this is mostly because they didn't really know how they would need to optimize this game.

Just one of the things we need to live with.
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Lavender Brown
 
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Post » Mon May 10, 2010 8:23 am

What does your framerate drop to in combat?
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The Time Car
 
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Post » Mon May 10, 2010 9:03 am

Lowering your resolution probably did not help the real issue, since your graphics card couldn't possibly be struggling with Oblivion (unless you added a bunch of mods to it.) Are you playing vanilla Oblivion? The NPCs' AI packages are hurting your CPU, and lowering the res mainly just relieved your graphics card a little bit. I'm kind of surprised you saw a boost from that, honestly (unless, again, you are played a game modified with many texture replacers.) Do you have Anti-virus and other applications running in the background? Did you try running the game after a clean boot?


Edit: If you have AA turned on, turn it off. That would certainly give your system a boost...
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