Reproccer driving me NUTS! : V

» Mon May 19, 2014 1:44 pm

I'm about to give up here.
I'm completely lost in all the different reproc patches, its like everything points me to yet another patch and my game is already running close to its esp limit in sheer compatibility patches as is.
And to think my game was running splendidly before, and after running a reproc patch (because i noticed different stat values on gear) i keep CTD'ing at save load.
LOOT runs fine, bashed patch doesnt complain, and both the normal proc patch and the dual sheath one run without a hinch, but for some reason it just wont work.
Only hint i get is the reproccer.esp being orange in Wryebash.

if anyone can make something out of this situation, i would truly appreciate it, because i'm this close to give up on this yet again.

LOOT log:

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Masters for Bashed Patch, 0.esp:

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00  Skyrim.esm01  Update.esm02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]03  Dawnguard.esm**  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]04  HearthFires.esm**  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.3]05  Dragonborn.esm06  SkyMoMod.esm++  moveitLWT.esp++  CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp07  DeadlyDragons.esp08  Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp09  SkyRe_Main.esp0A  HarvestOverhaulCreatures.esp  [Version 2.8.2]0B  Immersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.esp0C  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp0D  3DNPC.esp++  AFT_iNPCFix.esp0E  TradeRoutes.esp  [Version 1.1]0F  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.5.2]10  HarvestOverhaul.esp  [Version 2.8.2]++  SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp  [Version v6.1.2]11  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.5.2]12  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp13  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp14  Immersive Weapons.esp15  Rebirth Monster.esp16  Cloaks.esp17  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]18  Chesko_Frostfall.esp19  Hunterborn.esp++  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp1A  TorchArrow-Dawnguard.esp

» Mon May 19, 2014 8:10 am

did you run the reproccer before you run the bashed patch?

You should read the reproccer readme, iirc you have to patch everything in a specific order.

i think its reproccer, then based patch, then TES5Edit, but i stopped using the TES5Edit patch

edit: in wyre bash, on the bottom right hand corner there is a box, highlight the reproccer esp and look to see what masters its using in Wyre Bash.

See what's out of order or list both your mod list and the masters that reproccer is using. You can switch those around in Wyre Bash, you might have to make exceptions in Loot if it orders your mods in ways that makes your game crash. With BOSS you could use a utility called BUM to make special exceptions in your order, i asked loot derps about it and they said they have something similar. or something like that

» Mon May 19, 2014 9:19 am

You rebuild them in the same order there are load order-wise. So it's Bashed Patch first, then Reproccer. Otherwise you don't get the benifit of having both, since the Reproccer won't see the changes that would have been made by the Bashed Patch otherwise.

Orange for the Reproccer is "normal" and you shouldn't have to worry about it. All it means is the masters are not in the same order as it thinks they should be (because Reproccer still doesn't handle false-flagged masters 100% correctly), however this isn't a real issue.

I'm not the best experienced with SkyProc patches, but from my personal experience I could never get the Dual Sheath Redux patcher to work without crashing my game. Try a test run without that installed and see if the crashes go away, then at least you have a spot to narrow down what to fix. If you find that was the cause, maybe someone experience with it can help you track down what's causing it.

» Mon May 19, 2014 1:48 pm

i've managed to ( FOR THE MOMENT) getting things working again by starting from a clean (mod-free) statersave.
Seems like the saves progressed ingame have become unusable due to...well if only i knew.
The only tidbits found wrong in those save files are these:

----> Delinquent MASTER: ReProccer.esp
F7 ReProccer.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 IW UU aMidianSS Patch.esp
F8 Post ReProccer Fixes IA7 IW UU aMidianSS Patch.esp

Delinquent master from what i read means its missing as a master file .
But since both files ARE in the list, i take that to mean that it does not recognise these files as the same ones they used in the save, because of the changed values i guess?

Going on a limb here beyond my feeble tech knowledge

» Mon May 19, 2014 8:02 am

I am too using DSR and SkyRe (+ the newest patches from "SkyRe Compatibility and ReProccer Patches"), I use LOOT to sort my loadorder and Mod Organizer as mod managing tool. My load order looks like this

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Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 IW UU Patch.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
ReProccer.esp
Post ReProccer Fixes CCOR IA7 IW UU Patch.esp

I create my patches in the following order:

1. Run LOOT.

2. Deactivate everything that is below the Bashed Patch, then recreate the Bashed Patch.

3. Activate "Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp", then update DSR.

4. Activate "Pre ReProccer WAFR IA7 IW UU Patch.esp" and "ReProccer.esp", then update the ReProccer.

5. Activate "Post ReProccer Fixes CCOR IA7 IW UU Patch.esp".

That's how I update these things for quite some time now and I haven't run into any problems, as far as I can tell. If your previous method differs from mine it might be worth a try to update these things as outlined above.

One more thing, are you using sheson's memory patch, either through SSME or directly through SKSE 1.7.0 Alpha? It not, you definitely should.

» Sun May 18, 2014 10:14 pm

a CTD at save load typically isn't related to the memory patch issue, although everyone should as you say it is not hugely helpful for this kind of crash.

» Mon May 19, 2014 11:51 am

i followed pStyl3's order, the old save remain unusable, but at least i've been able to start a new game without issues SO FAR.

As for the memory patch, i havent looked into that just yet, as i've heard applying it properly was very technical and tricky, and i'd prefer not to mess up too much else, wich has been established by now, i'm rather prone to do.