Why does Java update every. single. damn. day.

Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:03 pm

Seriously, it's becoming highly annoying. I cannot log on a video game DAILY without being returned to desktop for a Java Oracle update. Holy crap. This is so irritating. No other program on this planet needs to be updated literally less than every 24 hours.

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xx_Jess_xx
 
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:14 pm

I don't know about gaming, but I use several web portals that have Java built in. They do not always work with the Java Updates, so I have to configure my browser to use older versions of Java depending on what I am trying to do.

Java and Flash need to go away.

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Ludivine Poussineau
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:24 am

Is it all genuine updates? A lot of malware / adware disguises itself as Java, and you can turn the legitimate Java's updates off from the Java control panel section.

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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:00 am

Totally agree on Flash, and I'm pretty sure that the lack of support on mobile platforms will eventually kill it for good. Adobe doesn't even want to keep it around at this point. For Java, there are two distinctly different things happening there:

Java applets - this is what needs to go away, and is the source of all of the annoying security vulnerabilities and resulting updates. This, specifically, is a set of browser plug-ins that allow Java "applets" served in web pages to run in the Java Runtime Environment. No half-sane web developer uses Java applets in any new projects, so these will eventually go away on their own. Some notable hold-outs are still using these applets, so Oracle has to continue supporting the problematic browser plug-ins.

Software that runs on the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) - this is the vast, VAST majority of all Java software. It's a decent platform, and used in a staggering number of commercial and open-source software projects. If Java went away, at least half of all of the internet services we use daily (along with a lot of useful software) would go with it. We don't want that to happen, and don't worry, it won't. A large cross-section of IT software developers still love Java...it's not going anywhere.

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Marnesia Steele
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:49 am

This seems likely. Not even the beta for Java 8 updates daily, so either OP needs to remove Java completely and reinstall from Oracle directly due to a broken install, or OP is infected.

https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

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Frank Firefly
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:09 am

I totally agree with Softnerd, and I want to add that ActiveX needs to go too.

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Rudi Carter
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:38 am

Oh, jeebus, yes.

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Heather beauchamp
 
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:59 pm

if flash goes so will a lot of flash games .-.

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Chloe Botham
 
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:36 pm

Let's kill flash sooner than later then. :P

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Valerie Marie
 
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:57 pm

People still use Java? I've had it removed from my PC for the past several years due to all the security risks.

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latrina
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:22 am

Again, the security risks are coming from the browser plug-ins, which are used by very few web sites anymore. Java itself is fine. If you use the internet you're most likely using Java software every day. It's just not running on your computer.

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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:08 pm

As have I. But, for some there are applications they use (like modding tools for games) that were developed in Java and require some to have it installed. I can understand why still some use it. (It's also multi-platform being a VM type of code)

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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:26 pm

Yep, if you don't use any software that runs in the JRE then you don't need to have it installed. I use Subsonic to stream music to my phone and my computer at work (fantastic software), a desktop widget framework called Rainmeter, and some development tools like Liquibase and SQL Power Architect that all run on the JRE. Again, though, those are all Java applications, not "applets" that use the browser plug-in, so the security issues that we've all heard a lot about do not apply.

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Jordyn Youngman
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:28 am

How about you uninstall it? Most people don't need Java installed.
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Tanya
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:14 am

as someone else has already said if I removed Java most everything you do online would go away with it. Why would anyone do that?

that doesn't change the fact that it's highly annoying to have it constantly update almost every single day
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Natalie Harvey
 
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 4:26 pm

What do we say to the God of Java?

Not today.

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Chantelle Walker
 
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Post » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:35 am

That's not true at all. Java != Javascript. Java in the web browser is mostly for enterprise stuff. The only actual website I can think of that uses Java applets still off the top of my head is E-Trade.


Java doesn't update that often, quite frankly, less than Windows or even Chrome/Firefox. https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/release_dates.xml
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:39 pm

IrfanView. It's a program which can open flash related things both online or offline. (flv files, flash games, etc). It can also open a variety of picture + video files as well (not just flash related stuff).

I tend to use that program when I want to play a flash game. (I'll download said game and open it in IrfanView).

So removing the main Flash thing wouldn't fully hurt flash games.

As for Java... OP confuses me. I'm on Java 7 Update 60 and it works well for me. Plus isn't bothering me at all to update... So *shrugs*... Virus protection stuff, like Mcafee, will bother me way much more about updating than Java. (Like by a 1000+%).

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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:12 pm

Java games (like RuneScape, games on Funorb, and Minecraft).

Facebook uses Java I think for some things.

Some downloaders that I use to download videos also uses Java.

And more...

Then again, that's just me. I find that not having Java is a bigger issue for me than having it. (Plus the updates stuff hadn't bothered me at all in a long long time).

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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:52 pm

There is such a thing as fake java updates, personally I would make very sure that's not what's going on.http://www.cnet.com/news/beware-of-fake-java-updates/I don't use Java for anything. The downloader I use is just an extension to Firefox. Sometimes you'll see a java widget on a web page, but it's not a big deal for me not to bother.I have been experimenting with not using Javascript in Chrome, and not having any plug-ins running at all. I add exceptions for sites that I comment on since just about all commenting uses Javascript. I quite like it for a decluttered browsing experience.
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Post » Thu Jun 12, 2014 6:57 pm

Man Java is awesome. I don't know what the fuss is about. I'm completely content with it randomly domestic violencing my RAM and making Fire fox move slower than a sloth with two broken legs.

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