In-game the shouts are obviously nerfed. We can't shout down walls or enslave entire countries or split apart landmasses. But in the lore AND in-game,we see much more powerful examples of the th'uum. The greybeards made the entirety of skyrim shake by saying "Dovahkiin". Miraak split solstheim of the coast of morrowind with a shout,and was instantly able to eat a dragon's soul with a shout. He also is able to use firebreath every few seconds which does huge amounts of damage. Also Clavicus vile says that since half of his power was separated from him,the LDB is as powerful as him.Half as powerful as a major daedra. And the dragonborn isn't even fully realized.

Is the LDG more tremendously powerful in lore than what we see in-game,or is what we see in-game a accurate representation?

we do not know, in a way he is equivilant to a demi-god though, so he is probably more powerful then we see in game in regards to shouts. (dragons are basically angels if you look at it and you WERE given this power by akatosh).

Only time will tell. Skyrim is about the rise of the LDB and his fight against Alduin.

But to answer the question, think Tiber Septim with the ability to abosorb Dragon Souls.

I thought Tiber Septim did have the ability to absorb Dragon Souls. There just weren't any Dragons around to absorb.

yeah, he could, all Dragonborn can. Also, there WERE dragons around, just he never killed any himself, the blades killed many of them and the rest were in hiding)

powerful, but probably not as powerful as the Nerevarine (hat is, assuming the Nerevarine is still alive and didn't die in Akavir.. think about it, an era's worth of combat experience)..

lore-wise, I would say the LDB is just under the Nerevarine, but on par with or just slightly above the Divine Crusdader

while Tiber Septim achieved a lot, as far as i remember it was not because of any actual supreme power.. it was more of his army and Leadership skills that helped him conquer Tamriel and establish the third empire, and not some supernatural power he had himself

although, he did have use of the Thu'um, .. it is one of the reasons the Nords joined his army.. but Tiber Septim lost his ability to use the Thu'um not long after during a failed assassination attempt in highrock when a nightblade slit his throat, causing him to only speak in a whisper .

of course its the forces he had at his side that helped him Conquer, not his own power.., he had the Numidium on his side.. If i recall correctly it was the Numidium that played the largest part in the toppling of the first Aldmeri Dominion, and the many Dragons he had under his command (such as Nafaalilagrus)..

Dragons were around, we know the name of at least one who served under Tiber Himself as a Mercenary while Tiber was conquering and founding the third Empire

that being http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nafaalilargus, who was slain by Cyrus the Redguard, in the game "Redguard" (my favorite TES title)

Where is this from?

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Tiber_Septim

under Orthodoxy, second paragraph third sentance

He's a pumpkin among tomatos.

Unless, he's a banana... damn high elves

Take that with a HUGE grain of salt as it comes from the Pocket guide to the empire it seems and that is already known to have false information

I think some of these stories are highly inconsistent. Or maybe it's related to how powerful an individual is. It was known that nords could shout and that they fought dragons themselves. We also know that the nords who were fighting the dunmer and the dwemer in Morrowind could shout but still got their asses kicked.

On the other hand our dragonborn did do some neat stuff, like taking down Miraak and Alduin, but then again gameplay =/= lore. Canon will probably say that the same year the dragonborn became the dragonborn is the year when he slayed those two, and imo someone who just found out he can shout could be no match for entities that have done some insane things and use the power since forever. It's not like our dragonborn was special for anything specific, or at least there is no indication that there's a difference between someone like him and someone like Septim or Miraak, so there is no reason for him to be able to totally outmatch experience dragonborn or dragon with such ease as it was in the game.

Miraak certainly didn't tear off Solstheim two weeks after becoming the Dragonborn.

The whole Hjalti getting his throat cut business is a lie. It was made to cover up the fact that Hjalti couldn't shout without Wulfharth.

No, he could it's just he wasn't as powerful as Wulfharth. We saw Tiber shouting in his sword-meeting with Cyrus.

IIRC, MK's vision of the Dragonborn DLC would have had the LBD one-shotting Miraak on arrival, with the rest of the focus on Herma Mora. The LBD really is supposed to be that powerful. given that he has the accumulated knowledge and power of dozens (maybe hundreds) of dragons, not to mention he's the [censored] PC.

Except Wulfharth's own account tells of how Hjalti studied with the Greybeards, and used the Thu'um at the Battle of Old Hroldan. Not to mention the Voice of the Emperor power, a sort of weak Bend Will Shout.

That's Tiber Septim, not Hjalti. They are different entities.

That was Talos Stormcrown, not Hjalti. Once again, they are different entities.

Why? Making him really that powerful without any explanation whatsoever is kinda stupid in supposedly lore rich setting. And Miraak certainly piled up his share of dead dragons, and as we don't know the exact timeline of that period he could have been killing dragons for ages compared to our dragonborn killing dragons worth of one year, at best. Let's also not forget that he basically hypnotized an entire freakin island to work for him, and he's able to devour souls of dragons our dragonborn killed while our DB doesn't even have any comprehension of what's going on, so lore wise our DB could have potentially "feed" Miraak more than himself. So aside from the fight itself, everything in the game points to Miraak being far more powerful than our own DB.

Besides, gameplay =/= lore, so that's completely meaningless in a topic like this.