I'm not talking about a post-nuclear where major society has been lost and mankind is struggling to survive as this idea already has it's leaders (Fallout being the obvious).

I'm thinking more of modern style camouflage clothes and bullet firing guns in a fictional open world setting. I often get the idea when playing COD. It'll have to set after a post wartime where a lesser power has managed to cripple and bring down all super power and law.

I've not played the new Metal Gear solid yet which I think is modern day military with some open world.

Rage is rebels fighting against a corrupt authority which if continued could be a great universe if they could manage to stand out from being like another Fallout, Mad Max & Borderlands.

Have you looked at Far Cry?

I've not bought it yet but is in my list of games to get. I've not bought it yet as I wanted the best deal where i get all the expansions in the package (goty style set). I may even have a look today.

Apparently the game is great but the on-line lacks a bit. Something like that could be good if it was set in a universe of a global scale. Build up a complete lore. Have towns with jobs, shops and guilds etc. I can't see Far Cry becoming a global world but if the developers started with a fresh plot then their skills would be ideal.

you said no post apoc... but check out this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84OIuVdurUQ

I'd recommend you look into Far Cry 2, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and particularly the ARMA series. All of those sound right up your alley, particularly the latter two. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. borders on the post-apocalyptic, being set in the Chernobyl area (Think the Chernobyl level from Modern Warfare plus radiation and mutants, but most of the guys you're fighting are human), but ARMA gives you a huge region to pretty much do whatever you please, even incorporating some strategy elements. And I do mean do as you please. It's a milsim at it's core, not an RPG, but you can go anywhere in the country, shoot anyone, drive any of the vehicles (including planes), and the multiplayer is absolutely kick ass. Check it out.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. for sure, easily my favourite shooter series. The http://www.moddb.com/mods/lost-alpha mod is standalone and just received a new patch, so you can download it and play for free. Keep in mind that it's a community made game and still in early stages of release however.

If you don't mind the super steep learning curve and slow gameplay then the Arma games would be exactly what you're after. Modern warfare in huge open maps with tons of vehicles to traverse them.

The trouble with stalker is it isn't on console. I could try it on my laptop with xbox controller I bought for it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Warfare_2:_Ghost

This comic shows more of how the world is like in the MW universe.

I remember Operation Flashpoint, and the island that was set on was big, i remember running across it and think to myself why the hell did i start this, it took ages, it was a decent trip by sports car, because you get to drive one at the end of the game, made by the same company that makes ARMA, they also make open world simulators for the military that you can actually buy, you buy a base package, then purchase different armies, a friend wanted to get it but couldnt get enough people to play.

I remember talking for hours with some friends about a game with this idea. Basically a hybrid of elder scrolls/Battlefield/COD/Mercenaries set in like world war 3 or something like that. An open world war game, where you can choose to join any side and get side missions everywhere, can disguise as hostile factions to cross into their lands mercenaries style with gameplay of battlefield (with the destroyable buildings of course). Would be a badass game for sure. Sort of like if they took the model for farcry 3 and added a bunch of factions and different storylines.

I'm gonna throw alpha protocol into the mix...

It's not an open world but it's a rpg and deals a lot with modern military, politics and scandals of that nature with 3rd person shooting, stealth and or hacking gameplay.

Splinter Cell: Blacklist has some RPG elements to it.

I'm suprised no one has mentioned Brink yet. Parkour, FPS, and RPG mechanics give you the ultimate FPS experience. Even on it's own, you'll like it. Plus, it's published by Bethesda, so you're already in the right place.

This^^ will be all that and a bag of fritos

The Division, only it's not single player.

It's been done a billion times already, some are good but most of them are mediocre.

Minus the terrible map design and the fundamentally flawed way they designed leveling given other gameplay elements...

I should have known that the maps were going to have terrible choke points when they bragged about having the guy that designed de_dust on the team, but the way they did the leveling was just stupid. I'm not annoyed at their excessive marketing hype machine, a lot of games do that and it can be ignored, but they had some very poor decisions with the way they did Brink.

Division is the usual Ubi hype and fluff. See Watch Dogs.

Still better than the horrid Maps of Future Soldier.

Vandal hearts, south park the stick of truth and Far cry 3?

I agree that Ubi hypes their games up and sometimes to excess, but over-hyping and dissatisfaction isn't ubiquitous with everyone of there games as your post implies.

They delayed the game a while ago, and announced that it will now have single player.

Look up a game called MAG. Take that backstory add in more PMCs and open world gameplay I think that would make for a good FPS RPG MMO or even single player game.

On a side note MAG was one of the best most fun FPS I have ever played. Just my opinion of course.

If I can lone wolf that game I'm totally getting it. To me, that setting is ten times more interesting than something like New Vegas. Screw the desert, I want to play on the coast.