Ok so. I just cant seem to get it to update. I've kept it in the default folder that came when it installed and it wont update. I don't have problems using it. I have steam and I copied the files from the Bethesda Softworks folder to the Fallout 3 folder under steam. It works fine but I want to get the update in case I run across something that the update fixes. so what I'm asking is... how am I going to be able to update GECK. and do I REALLY need it for something. I just tried loading 2 master files and it worked so that's not an issue.