so im getting a new pc and i was wondering if i can run skyrim on high or ultra high with around 45-60 fpshttp://www.walmart.com/ip/CYBERPOWERPC-Gamer-Ultra-GUA2000W-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Zambezi-FX-6300-6-Core-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1-Monitor-Not-Includ/34643909?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_middle&strategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=89808825484&category=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A132982&client_guid=652f5036-80fa-4504-9b57-c809b2fa4bcb&config_id=0&parent_item_id=35119953&guid=7d0ea654-9431-4ed8-a304-2fbc886dd651&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n

Yes, but not on 1080p !!! (high and not ultra)

This below should do the job !!!

http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-WA583R7-Black-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Eight-Core-FX-8320-Vishera-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor/35119954?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_top&strategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=89847581792&category=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A132982&client_guid=55e61120-aa7f-47be-a0b4-a3235702da24&config_id=2&parent_item_id=34643909&guid=13e5badb-be36-4d90-b320-d41e2e807ffd&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n

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R7 250 2GB DDR3 -> Max memory bandwidth: 28.8 Gb/s (Not enough power) That's the graphic card from your link

R7 250 1GB DDR5 -> Max memory bandwidth: 73.6 Gb/s (Acceptable)

R7 260X 2GB DDR5 -> Max memory bandwidth:104 Gb/s (Good) That's the graphic card from the second link

My monitor is a 1680x1050 resolution display and not a full 1980x1080 monitor so will the one I picked out be able to play at 1680x1050resolution and I'm going to eventually upgrade a part from the PC so which should I upgrade. GPU Or CPU

I also found a different PC that might be better but a little more expensive than the link you gave @Mark41
http://mobile.walmart.com/ip/CyberPowerPC-Gamer-Xtreme-GXi1000W-Desktop-PC-with-Intel-Core-i5-4670K-Quad-Core-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-8.1/31342476?action=product_interest&action_type=title&placement_id=irs_middle&strategy=PWVUB&visitor_id=89808825484&category=0%3A3944%3A3951%3A132982&client_guid=1f68f9a8-a92e-4eac-8c50-8a17fcf03f9b&config_id=0&parent_item_id=34643909&guid=273c3c53-8199-4fcb-8748-77544f39df7f&bucket_id=irsbucketdefault&findingMethod=p13n

That one still has the R7 250 graphics card as does the first one you linked.

With pre-built PCs, you need to understand that they put the minimum specs to cut on costs. It would be better to look as the PSU to see how much it can handle before thinking of upgrading anything.

You first configuration costs: $ 528

You definitely want to upgrade your GPU. So if you buy this GPU for example: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Asus-Radeon-R7-260X-Video-Card-2GB-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3.0-x16-Overclocked/37668003

The whole computer will cost you: $528 + $140 = $ 668

That's $10 more as the configuration i suggested. (Except that you get a slightly better processor. (Amd FX-8320* instead of Amd FX-6300)

* 32bit and 64 bit windoiws applications will run faster, professional 3D applications as well. Gaming performance should be a bit better too.)

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There is only one problem: The R7 250 doesn't need an extra PCI-E power cable to be connected to the graphics card, the R7 260X do.

So i don't know if the power supply of your first configuration provides this extra PCI-E cable. Normally it should, but i don't know for sure.

Otherwise you will be forced to buy another Power supply as well. Then things will get complicated for you.

But again, as i see your configuration uses a 350 Watt PSU and the offer i have suggested uses a 500 Watt PSU.

So there is no doubt, which one you should actually choose. !!!!!

On this configuration the only component that is worth mentioning, is the CPU. i5-4670K

That's a much better option as the two Amd's. (either FX-8320 or FX-6300)

However, this configuration uses again a pretty basic 350 watt Power supply. So we have the exact same problem, as i stated above.

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So if you ask me the best you can do, is to buy this: http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-WA583R7-Black-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Eight-Core-FX-8320-Vishera-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor/35119954

There is no doubt, which of all those suggested is the better choice. (Bang for your Buck)

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Worth mentioning, what Echonite^P says: (and the first thing you should consider, if you feel adventurous to upgrade anyhing on a pre-build system)

With pre-built PCs, you need to understand that they put the minimum specs to cut on costs. It would be better to look as the PSU to see how much it can handle before thinking of upgrading anything.

I second what Mark41 said. http://www.walmart.com/ip/iBUYPOWER-Gamer-WA583R7-Black-Desktop-PC-with-AMD-Eight-Core-FX-8320-Vishera-Processor-8GB-Memory-1TB-Hard-Drive-and-Windows-7-Home-Premium-Monitor/35119954

This is the one you want. Although you mention upgrading. How much do you think you are willing to spend total?

If you go with the above, consider the extended warranty. It's never a bad idea. Not that you have to.

Yep, that would be a nice idea.

And as a bonus, he has a Lifetime tech support. That's always helpful, if somemone is not tech savvy, and got troubles with his PC.

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And something else he should consider, and very reccomended. (from the Support and Warranty section, on the same page):

Restore discs are not included. We recommend you use the installed software to create your own restore and backup DVD the first week you use the AMD desktop PC with 1TB hard drive and Windows 7 Home Premium

well I know that I would have to upgrade the PSU because I think the second link i gave is a 350 watt and I would need a 600 watt to power everything perfect

I'm still all confused about all this

Why you want to buy a 600Watt PSU, on a R7 250, and spend money on something you don't need with a GPU like this.

The 350 watt PSU will work, otherwise CyberpowerPC wouldn't put it in there, isn't so ??? lol.

But for how long, and if that PSU has any kind of protection, it's impossible to say without knowing the internal components.

And believe me, you need overload protection, and any kind of protection related to current.

So you need another PSU, not because this current one is not enough to power up your RIG, but because it's from an unknown vendor, and propably without any kind of protection for your precious components.

Not to mention, that i wouldn't dare to upgrade my GPU with an 350 Watt PSU. !!! (no one should sell a PC with an 350 watt PSU those days.)

But as Echonite^P said earlier: you need to understand that they put the minimum specs to cut on costs.

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And the problem remains, even if you change the PSU, the GPU with DDR3 memory, is not something you should be happy about, if you want to play Skyrim on high-ultra settings.

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I don't know what's your problem with the AMD FX-8320 and the Ati R7 260X computer configuration.

(Thera is a possibility that this PC has an Apevia 500 watt PSU. If it's so, you don't want to push that thing too much.)

Howeve, buying for this configuration another PSU makes perfectly sense.

If you tell me, maybe i, and the other guys here in this forum, can assist you any further.

the second link i gave you, the one with the i5 4670k. i know it doesnt have a good GPU or CPU but my dad is buying my computer and fore christmas my mom and setp dad said tehy will get me a better graphics card(i want a GTX 760 2GB) and a better PSU im getting into graphics programming and game developing with unreal engine 4 so thats my opinion. im not trying to argue or prove you wrong. but now that i gave you that info witch one do yuo think would be better

> im getting into graphics programming and game developing with unreal engine 4 so thats my opinion <

Good point.

If you get the GTX 760 and another PSU, then you are good to go. The i5-4670K is a very good and fast processor.

And you can play Skyrim like a human being then, and not like a troll.

It's settled then. !!!

And i wish you good luck with your studies.

thanks sooooooooo much Mark41. just one more question. will i be able to play crysis 3 on high haha because ive been digging into it on my xbox lol.

On skyrim with 1920x1080 Ultra settings, you will get near 90 fps unlocked.

After Vsync, you will get locked framerates at 60, and you have plenty room for mods too.

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As for Crysis 3 you will get near 45 fps at 1920x1080 high settings (MSAA:low) high texture resolution.