I found the 2 entries under globals and the values are 20 and 50..so whats the best way to change this to make it more realistic and is there anyway to make it charge by distance......if i remember right i read that 20 gps trips are to holds with stables and 50gp trips are to holds with out stables is that right?

another thing i thought i read was someone made changes to the global setting and the drivers dialogue still said the default prices though when charged it was the changed amount..so how do you fix that?

Have you looked into http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/15508/?? It may save you the modding effort entirely if you're just looking for the configurable distance-based price functionality, otherwise it'll be a good place to start by looking at the source and checking how it was done.

yeah i looked and played it but i cant make heads or tales of it...i changed the globals to 100 and 200 but the driver dialogue still says the vanilla price so im assuming i got to alter the dialogue does that sound right?

Yes, you have to find the quest in Skyrim.esm that's responsible for handling carriages, then editing the dialogue lines in the Quest form (I think it's in the Player Dialogue section?). If you plan on having adjustable prices instead of hardcoded, you'll need to find a way to change the dialogue dynamically at runtime, which I'm afraid I have no idea how to do.

Maybe, after a call to http://www.creationkit.com/UpdateCurrentInstanceGlobal_-_Quest, the prices are updated, without the need to modify the quest.

i cant find the quest that handles the carriages..i was looking in the object panel under the character tab.

how i use this? ingame with the console?

With the new scripting language, Papyrus. You'll want to look for the Papyrus Introduction (search) at the Creation Kit Wiki.

You have to create a new quest that acts as an 'updater' for the Carriage Drive quest. I'll give you later a walkthrough when I'm back at home from work.

But meanwhile you can read some tutorials on quest related stuff on the CK wiki page, I recomend http://www.creationkit.com/Bethesda_Tutorial_Planning_the_Quest and http://www.creationkit.com/Bethesda_Tutorial_Quest_Objectives.

great a walkthrough will come in handy..thanks for your kindness.

So, I'm back and here we go:

1. Create a new quest an give it the ID qwert_CarriageSystemUpdater, and make sure 'Start Game Enabled' is checked. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/0b2v29tj32m3952/car01.PNG?dl=0)
2. Close the window (click on OK) and re-open it again. You will notice that there are now several more tabs.
3. Goto the 'Stages' tab, ricgt-click in the Index-list and choose new. Give the new Stage a number what ever you want (I've choosen 0, the default). Now right-click in 'Log Entry' list and choose 'New' (https://www.dropbox.com/s/sjp5z6vh7u5ba21/car02.png?dl=0)
4. Next step is to 'prepare' the quest's script. In the 'Papyrus Fragment' box type a single ; (semicolon)
5. Close the window and re-open it again.
6. Now we have to add some script properties, so we can deal with our goal.
7. Select the Stage with index 0 (or whatever number you have given). Click on 'Properties' in the 'Papyrus Fragment' box.
8. In the new opened window click 'Add Property'. Now you have to fill in the correct Types and Names.
   • for the quest we want to update it should look like https://www.dropbox.com/s/jvzjnj7cwx8hyil/car03.PNG?dl=0
   • for the carraige costs we want to alter it should look like https://www.dropbox.com/s/xeh6jn40ydmrcgi/car04.PNG?dl=0 and https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xg8cs5v0bjq1op/car05.PNG?dl=0
9. since we used the EditorID's for our properties, they should be auto-filled upon OK. The Properties window should now have https://www.dropbox.com/s/nbonqaq62dcnz4c/car06.PNG?dl=0.
10. Close it. Now we have to script a little bit. Add these lines into the 'Papyrus Fragment' box, they should replace the single semicolon

11. DialogueCarriageSystem.UpdateCurrentInstanceGlobal(CarriageCost)DialogueCarriageSystem.UpdateCurrentInstanceGlobal(CarriageCostSmall)Stop()

12. Save your work.
13. Start Skyrim, talk to any carriage driver, and https://www.dropbox.com/s/boenz76ae2prevq/ScreenShot2.png?dl=0 (in german, sorry)

That's all

cheers

-docblacky