I have never heard people complain more about anything than the Sims. People sit there and just gripe about how much they hate the series in general. I even find people writing about their major dislike in gaming magazines. What is so bad about the Sims?

I've not heard this until now. Does this happen on Reddit or something? Because other gaming forums I'm part of (Steam being the largest) are not really saying anything at all .

Diablo III.

Mass Effect 3 seems to get the most hate, from what I see.

I still think Diablo III gets more hate even for things that people like. Everything that Blizzard does for Diablo III gets hate from the fans.

I think the only thing I heard from Mass Effect 3 was the ending.

Not too sure why, I really enjoyed it.

I stopped seeing this once they removed the RWT shop.

A lot of people hated the ending, so they act like it's the worst game ever made. I think it's a bit of an overreaction. Even if it ended without explaining anything and the characters all breaking into a random Bollywood dance number as credits roll it still wouldn't anywhere close to the worst game released the month it came out. Also: Dragon Age 2. It was disappointing overall compared to Origins, but I think people overreact to that one too.

I've heard people complain about TES: Online, I don't know how the game was like when it first come out but since I've bought it I've been pretty happy with it.

Me too. Of course, by the time I got the game the extended ending was already out so I never saw the original ending. I'm assuming the only difference was in the ending 'slide show', which is hardly anything worth complaining about. Games are about the play, and ME3 was fun. I certainly think ME3 got a bad rap.

On the other hand, I've noticed that most of the comments in forums dedicated to ANY game are complaints ...

Yeah, I've heard that quite a bit lately. If anything its discouraging me from wanting to play it.

Every sequel ever made.

It's an intensely popular series that tons of people enjoy that wouldn't otherwise play games. In other words, it threatens their smugly superior sense of exclusivity. It's also a laid back game that's got a very different design philosophy than most "core" games, because it's impossible to have a true game that's designed to be colorful, fun, and accessible that is intensely popular with both gamers and non-gamers alike (*ahem* ... simcity7thguestmystthesimscivilizationdoommariosolitairecrusaderkings2doineedtocontinue?)

Seriously, people [censored] because people [censored]. It pisses me off, since I remember a time when games, especially PC games, could be enjoyed by everyone and their mother, and no one had a big problem with it. Now, everyone is so concerned about gamer cred that if a game is popular outside of the hardcoe community, then it's [censored]. And yes, I'm whining about people whining. Sue me.

Ohhh, I'm with you 100% on this one. It's as if the general public enjoys something, a minority goes into a frenzy. Same goes with rock bands. Once they hit it big, the original group of fans have a fit.

I try not to go to the skyrim forums to often its depressing. but sometimes I can't help it though it calls to me. just when I thought I was out.

I completely agree

so, a variation of special snowflake syndrome basically

Skyrim is the game that gets the most unwarranted and dishonest hate.

Pretty much go to the "Official Boards" of anything and you're more than likely to trip over the "real fans" that have thrown themselves on the floor, writhing and wretching as they lament the developer's failure to have catered to their subjective whims.

It happened with "Morrowind". It happened with "Oblivion". It happened with "Skyrim". You can even watch it happen with "The Evil Within" now if you like.

But if you think a Bethesda True Gamer can throw a paddy...

You need to go to the official Wizards Of The Coast boards and see how well releasing "Magic The Gathering 2015" on iPad a week earlier than the PC went down with the "real fans".

Call of Dooty.

Has really no one mentioned this yet?

the term "real fans" literally makes me gag because of a prior experience...

Back after ME3 got released, I got alot of flack (borderline harassment really) on the Bioware forums because I actually didn't mind the ending, and thought it ended quite well.. people would say "your not a "real fan", real fans hate the ME3 ending!"
to which I responded "So, a real fan is someone who hates the product? wow, the term fan must really have changed since I finished school"..
to which they harassed me further.. man those forums are toxic..

I dunno. I see lots of complaining about all games in general, I've never really noticed from serious and intelligent gamers complaining about games because they are popular.

I HAVE seen people complain about games changing to appease the masses BECAUSE they became popular, like the Elder Scrolls. But that's not complaining that the games are popular, that's complaining that the games have essentially "sold out" by changing features to make it more accessible to people who barely play video games, when it's a gaming franchise that was built off of hardcoe gamers.

I myself am one of these people that have complained a lot about the direction of the Elder Scrolls franchise, but i don't care whether it's popular or not, I care if it's a good game that takes time on the details. I do however attribute some of the design choices in the franchise to the fact that the games became popular and bethesda wants to keep that going and try to grow its fan base. But i dont necessarily think that the elder scrolls being popular is bad by any means, I think they just acted on it wrong.

This is sort of an obscure anology that many people wouldnt get, but it's sort of like the band Megadeth when they released their album "Cryptic Writings" which was more of a pop type of sound then their classic Metal, but it sold a lot and was still a pretty solid Album. Then their next album, Risk, they decided that since their more mainstream pop kind of sound worked last time, they decided to try it again, but more so. The result was that Risk is probably Megadeth's worst studio album ever to be released and outraged many fans, not because it was popular, but because they changed the sound of what we knew and loved about Megadeth into a crappy Pop rock sound that was a blatant attempt at being more "radio friendly".

I don't think the fans were being elitist and smug when they said that the album svcked, i think it was because that's not the sound that got the fans into megadeth in the first place.

Just like i dont think the Elder scrolls fans are being elitist or smug when they say that Skyrim svcked (for a TES game), or that they don't like the general direction TES games are going, because what got lots of us into TES was the hardcoe RPG style and not the mainstream hack n slash that it seems they're trying to aim towards.

All that aside, I'm probably somewhere in the hardcoe gaming community I guess, but i don't have any aversion to playing games like The Sims, and actually don't mind the sims at all. It is what it is. Now if the next Elder Scrolls or Fallout game that came out was a Sims clone with different makeup, then yes, I would be extremely pissed because they just ruined a franchise to try and capitalize on the Sims customers, rather then make an entirely new game for those kinds of people (if wanna do that, then go ahead, just don't ruin a perfectly good franchise because of it).

All EA BioWare games.