It has been awhile since I have tried to do an oblivion install and everyone says that cleaning the esp files is a good idea towards a better game (more stability, fewer problems, etc) so I figure I would try it this time. However, the last time I built an install the topic of cleaning was still relatively new and people were still figuring out what not to clean (IIRC I believe either MMM or Frans was not to be cleaned in gecko) and was wondering that out of the mods that I use, which ones should not have their esp/esm files cleaned?

Load Order:

Oblivion.esmCybiades.esmWindfall.esmAll Natural Base.esmFrancesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esmFrancesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esmFrancesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esmTamrielic Ingredients.esmMart's Monster Mod.esmTamrielTravellers.esmArmamentarium.esmKvatch Rebuilt.esmHorseCombatMaster.esmUnnecessaryViolence.esmYounger Hotter NPC's v1.0.espColourwheels sixy Female NPCs.espUnofficial Oblivion Patch.espUOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.espDLCShiveringIsles.espUnofficial Shivering Isles Patch.espAll Natural - Real Lights.espAll Natural.espAll Natural - SI.espAll Natural - Natural Weather.espEnhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.espWindowLightingSystem.espDID3_DoubleTrouble.espKF Chapel Shop.espMedic!.espRock Remover - Underwater.espshiveringislesdoorusable.espUnsafe Streets.espEnhanced Economy.espmoDem's City Life.espMap Marker Overhaul.espMap Marker Overhaul - SI additions.espYetAnotherHotkeyMod.espEVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.espBlackheart and Gizmodian ECRobes.espHiyoko_Store.espReznod_Mannequin_HD[Eng].espSSA.espArmamentium female.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.espFrancesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.espFrancesco's Optional Files 1.espFrancesco's Optional Files 2.espFrancesco's Optional Files 4.espLoth's Blunt Weapons- Mobs.espLoth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.espArmamentariumLL.espArmamentariumLLMagic.espArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.espMart's Monster Mod for Fran.espMart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.espMart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.espMart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.espMart's Monster Mod - Fran's leveled quests.espMart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Roads.espMart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.espMart's Monster Mod - No Reavers.espMart's Monster Mod - No Carrion Rats.espMart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.espMart's Monster Mod - No Fiends.espMart's Monster Mod - No Pests.espMart's Monster Mod - No Beholdens.espMart's Monster Mod - No Uberhulks.espMart's Monster Mod - No Skeep.espMart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Moderate Increased.espMart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.espMart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.espMart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.espMart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.espMart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.espTamrielTravellers4MMM.espTamrielTravellersItemsnpc.espShiveringIsleTravellers.espShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.espMart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions MMM+Fran.espFransfemale.espFull Harvest.esp300_White Stallion 4.espAdenseEpicDungeon1_5.espAmajor7 Imperial Furniture.espBandit Hideouts.espBeyondCyrodiil-Camps.espBD&R - Laughing Maw.espBD&R - Deepgrave.espCaveOfLostSouls V1.espDarbinshire Keep.espDarkLight Mithril Armor.espAbriael_Human.espFort Ferrion.espFort Baltsine.espFort_Krakatus-8431.espThe Fall of Dagoth Hur 11.espGB_Oblivion Tournament.espHauntedHouse.espHeroes of Cyrodiil.espHeroes of Cyrodiil Part 2.espHeroes of Cyrodiil Part 3.espHeroes of Cyrodiil Part 4.espHeroes of Cyrodiil Part 5.espKvatch Rebuilt.espKEMT.espLostSwordOfTheAylied.espNascosto Isles 3.espRuins of Aeris Zul.espRuins of Tarnesia.espRuinsOfBrenfa.espSacredOak_Settlement.espSoT_TheOrderofNibenay.espsunk ships.espTempleOfZealotsV2.espTreasure Maps Blood Ransom.espTreasure Maps_Boethia's Burden.espTreasure Maps Meridias Womb.espTreasure_Maps_The_Legend_Of_Jauffres_Gold.espTreasure Maps Revenge Of The Nords.espValenwood Improved.espVHBloodlines 1.2.espWindfall.espza_bankmod.espZergonipilamat 1_2.espZera LeSaar's Tamrielic Luxuries.espBrumaMGRestored.espKnights.espKnights - Unofficial Patch.espEVE_KnightsoftheNine.espMart's Monster Mod - Knights.espCybiades.espCybiadesDungeon.espThe Lost Spires.espAFK_Weye.espUngarion1TheWelkyndSword.espLost Paladins of the Divines.espElsweyrAnequina.espLostSpires_TheOrderofNibenay_patch.espmythsandlegends.espNakedNord.espbartholm.espbartholm - EE patch.espAuto Potion.espEVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.espgardening.espPersuasionOverhaul.espkuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.espRock Remover - Shore.espStackableEquipment.espEnhanced Economy - House prices.espClaimThatInterior.espConduitMagic.espEnchantmentMastery.espGather Ye Rosebuds.espsr_enhanced_magic_system.espMidasSpells.espPoison Arrows.espDirenniAlchemyApparatus.espRshAlchemy.espZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.espRenGuardOverhaul.espRenGuardOverhaulShiveringIsles.espptThrowingWeapons.espDeadly Reflex 5 - Timed Block with no damage or durability changes.espDeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.espSmarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.espSniperSneakSkillup.espRealisticLeveling.espLegendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.espNanite's Legendary Alchemy.espCCR - Capucine.espCuteElf11.espAinmhiRace.espTabaxi Race 2.0.espDesuChan's Kawa-Khajiits.espAsharasSirensAndTritons.espbgBalancingEVCore.espbgMagicEV.espbgMagicItemSigil.espbgBalancingEVOptionalHalvedMagicka.espbgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.espbgIntegrationEV.espbgIntegrationEV - Alternative NPC Faces by LazyMonk.espEVE_KhajiitFix.espTheOubliette.espFrancesco's 7 days respawn time - 1-24 day lenght rescale.esp[GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.espbgMagicEVShader.espLi-Glassphials.espKoldornsImprovedLava2.espHelmet Toggle.espTamrielic_Ingredients_FraM.espDPCS.espDPCSRealisticLeveling.espToggleShaders.espMiners n Pickaxes.espOBGate Partner bugfix.espNo Vampirism.esp(TLB)ElderCouncilsChambers v1.0.espLockpickToolkit.espSaldaea.espCRDesolateBeta2.espDuplicate_Item_Spell.espReviveEssentials.espSoulgemSalvation.espThe Black Marsh_Snake Head Island.espSteve - Hitman.espA Sorceress Love 1_1.espBF_FortRapture.espEdolsian's Furnace, Kamal Volcano Caves.espScarletMonastery.espThe Island Of Fire.espDalls_Merchant.espMerchantsAlwaysBuyStolen.espThe Archer's Paradox Upgrades.espTamriel Rare Traders.espSseths Resource Foundry.esp

Any help is appreciated,

-Ex0dus

Don't clean patches or any FCOM files.

I dont have a full fcom install, so by Fcom files, do you mean anything associated with MMM or Frans? (I dont use OOO). Also by patches, do you mean any patch for any mod or just the unofficial patches?

sorry for the silly questions,

-Ex0dus

Do some reading http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=1034582 look at Thread 1 too

To be on the safe side never clean any FCOM, Frans, MMM or OOO files. These are complex overhauls and cleaning them may delete deliberate "dirty" edits.
With patches, I mean any ESP that is dependent on another ESP, since the patch may undelete references that was deleted by the orginal mod. And the patch makers usually know much more about TES4EDIT and cleaning that does the average modder.

Thanks for the clarification ^_^

-Ex0dus

http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/TES4Edit_Cleaning_Guide

Reading it now Arthmoor ^_^

Thanks for the link,

-Ex0dus