Eso Dremora

Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:22 pm

So basically is there any ingame/lore explanation why there are suddely so many Dremora serving Molag Bal?Did Dagon give them free vacation?I mean yes not all of them are pledged to him but really that many ?

Secondly why blue?

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John Moore
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:17 pm

I've not played much of ESO but I wager it's the same reason some Seducers serve Mehrunes Dagon while others serve Sheogorath, and why we've seen Daedroths serving Mehrunes Dagon, and Hungers inhabiting Sheogorath's realm, and to a lesser degree, why we see an Altmer in the Imperial Legion, and why there's an Imperial farmer looking to join the Stormcloaks. From the evidence that has been piling up since at least Morrowind (and perhaps even Battlespire or Daggerfall, but I've not played either so I wouldn't know), it seems clear that a Daedra's race- not unlike a mortal's race,-does not necessary dictate its allegiance.

Here are some relevant pieces of lore.

Dremora have long served Dagon but not always so.

-http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Spirit_of_the_Daedra


Haskill, for a long time it was assumed that the Dark Seducers were minions of your Lord's unbrother Mehrunes Dagon. However, we find them here, in the Isles, dutifully guarding the lands of Dementia and they seem to have been doing so for a long time already. Have the loyalties of the Seducers always been this divided, or has the Mad God's charisma persuaded a few of these fine specimens to work in His service?

Haskill:
How typical. You mortals love to take a pebble of information and construct entire realms of conjecture upon it. Your lore of those disparate beings that you lump together as "daedra" is based on nothing -- lies and half-truths told by traitors, rebels, miscontents and weaklings who have had the misfortune to become involved with mortals. Or with Mehrunes Dagon. Do not speak his name to me again. The Master of Scum. The pawn of every Prince of true power, the dupe of every schemer in the Nineteen Voids. Do you think you know anything of the politics, factions, feuds, vendettas, wars of Oblivion? Do you think Oblivion such a simple place, that the tale of the loyalties of a great people such as the Mazken could be encompassed in a brief tale?

Ah, excuse me. I seem to have become rather ... excessive. I am usually better at controlling myself. Forgive me. Pray continue with this most enthralling conversation.


-http://www.imperial-library.info/node/2234

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Angelina Mayo
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:34 pm

That Haskill quote is generally enough to answer every ignorant Daedric politics question on its own.

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Cat
 
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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:23 pm

Because ESO

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Ownie Zuliana
 
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Post » Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:19 am

That's just cheap mate.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:28 pm

Pretty much. It has been stated in several books that the Dremora aren't bound to serve a single principality, even though at first glance Oblivion would have you believe otherwise.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:54 am

Well the thing is it was somewhat stated....again I'm not saying that there couldn't at least be some of them in Molags service but in Eso there are just too much:

As you can see Fyr says a lot.The Dremora in ESO would probably be considered scum by those in service of their true lord.

I know that what i'm asking is that theme somehow used by ESO ?Or really just becasue ESO?And why blue?What's next pink golden Saints in the service of Sanguine?

And Haskill :Sheo isn't even the master of his own mind let alone his backyard how can his servant be so argoant ? :wink:And you can summon Haskill too.

http://www.gamesas.com/user/395866-crimson-paladin/

Well you ARE aware that Darkest Darkness, Spirit of the Daedra and Varieties of Daedra are in ESO?

Btw. what's up with their names?Foolkillers,Deathbringers are they orcs from WH40K? I remember things as Dremora Clan ,Dagon Clan or Ganonah.

Oh :

Vs.

Dagon will be delighted to hear that one of his Personal guards leads a clan for Bal.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:27 pm

People had the same reaction when TES IV gave us Daedroths in Mehrunes Dagon's service and Dark Seducers in Sheogorath's service. One must never forget that when it comes down to it, we know very, very little of all there is to know about Oblivion and its denizens, and most of our information comes from secondhand accounts from Tamrielic inhabitants, and occasionally a Daedra providing a few scraps of information.

The ignorance of mortals with regards to knowledge of Oblivion, and mortals' perceived importance of their native plane seems to be something of a peeve of Haskill. And let's face it, when you're as old as Haskill, having seen as much as he's seen (and not just the "stuff that makes men go mad" knowledge, but also likely vast knowledge of Oblivion and its inhabitants), I like to think he's earned the right to be insufferably arrogant when discussing such matters.

http://www.gamesas.com/user/395866-crimson-paladin/

Yes, I am aware of it, and I was when I posted.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:29 pm

There is no explicit explanation, but there's no reason to believe that Dagon wouldn't let Bal borrow some Dremora for the Planemeld.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 10:53 am

Or rather that Bal or his minions forcibly took, enslaved, and corrupted some Dremora for his own ends. I doubt he's above the enslavement of other Daedra and turning them into parodies of themselves.

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Post » Fri Dec 05, 2014 5:27 pm

Why? I don't know that there is some for of upper limit on how many dremora there can be. Granted in ESO the dremora are probably somewhat overrepresented as an enemy type in Bal's forces, but you can easily make the assumption that for every dremora serving Bal there are a hundred serving Dagon.

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