The Dragonborn should have become High King

Post » Sun Dec 28, 2014 10:31 pm

This is what I think should happen after the game main story line end in Skyrim

(Sorry for the spelling errors, English is not my first language).

The Dragonborn should have become High King and rule as Ysmir Dragon of the North

Resons why:

- The dragonborn is for the Nords the epitome of perfection as a a warrior and as a men, a symbol of the Old Way

and what all true Nords should aspire to resemble.

- He is for some but most Nords a messenger of the gods, he is the physical manifestation of the will of gods.

(Some believe that dragonborn are sent into the world by the gods, at times of great need). / Tiber Septim Maybe !?!

- When the dovakiin ask about is destiny to Master Arngeir this one said: That is for you to discover. We can show you the way, but not your destination.

( And for me they indeed have show him clearly the way when they shout at him and give him is true name Ysmir Dragon of the North).

This is what the Greybeard Elder's tell him: Long has the Stormcrown languished, with no worthy brow to sit upon.

By our breath we bestow it now to you in the name of Kyne, in the name of Shor, and in the name of Atmora of Old.

You are Ysmir now, the Dragon of the North, hearken to it.

I don't know what the Stormcrown is (we are not in GOT) but I think they can refer to the Ruby Throne because the time of war which resulted in Titus Mede

and is Dynasty seizing the Empire of Cyrodiil was called: The Stormcrown Interregnum.

It can also have a link to Tiber Septim here why: He shouted down the walls of Old Hrol'dan, and his men poured in.

After their victory, the Nords called Hjalti ''Talos'',meaning ''Stormcrown''.

But clearly in the laws of Tamriel the dragonborn have no real claim on the Empire.

He have dragonblood like the Septim but he is no Septim himself and he is not a Mede.

He maybe have some claim on Skyrim. Just has Legate Rikke said to General Tulius: You've been here long enough to know that Nords aren't always sensible. We follow our hearts.

Whit the clues I have assemble I think the dragonborn is the Heir of Tiber Septim not of blood like a son but of Philosophie and traditions. When Tiber Septim became Emperor of Cyrodiil he decided to march on Skyrim and add them to Imperial Occupation, as the dragonborn the Nords owe him their loyalty. So little is know about the conquest of Skyrim that most peoples believe the Nords pledge their allegiance to Talos before is army's even arrive in the province.

If this is True then the Nord should do the same with the current Dragonborn Heir of Talos.

This is the Dovakiin claim of Skyrim and to add to this I am sure the moot will vote for the dragonborn if they have this option in the game. He have the support of the Greybeard on is side not everybody like them but the Nords respect them. If this is not enough to prove why he have a claim on the Throne of the Nords he can just challenge the New High King to a duel in the '' Old Nord Ways'' because as we all know that if you refuse the duel you just give the challenger more right to claim the Throne and your honor is stain.

And to finish this if the moot do choose the dragonborn or he win the duel and is raise to Hight king to strengthen is Claim and Rule he shoud marry Hight King Torygg widow Jarl Elisif of Solitude. Now which side will the dragonborn choose Empire/Stormcloak is up to you but I personally think he will be Independent because the Mede Dynasty will se him as a threat to their authority as the previous Emperor dynasty the Septim where dragonborn.

What do you think ?

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Solène We
 
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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:00 am

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:10 am

It will not be that bad ... am sure of it

And Dragonborn are doomed to rule:

- Saint Alessia First Cyrodiil Empire

- Emperor Reman Cyrodiil

- High King Wulfharth of Skyrim

- Emperor Tiber Septim of Tamriel

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Eire Charlotta
 
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Post » Sun Dec 28, 2014 7:44 pm

So, what happens with a High Elf dragon born that's an Imperial supporter and mage?
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Post » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:44 pm

But how does it work if the Dragonborn is any race other than a Nord?

Dragonborn or not, no Nord would accept an Altmer High King, nor an Orc High King.

Argonian? No Way.

Khajit? Nope.

Bosmer? Dunmer?

Face it. High King would only work if the player could only be a Nord.

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Post » Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:38 pm

DevenTarn I Know what you mean I talk of the dragonborn of the trailer.

Marss I am talking if he is nord but a nord with magic won't matter.

This Story would work whit all character of the races of men:

Nord, Imperial, Breton

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:03 am

So, players who don't play those races wouldn't get to enjoy?

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 3:49 am

If you played a race that is not a races of men the max you will go is Prince Consort of Skyrim with Elisif High Queen

Because they will not accept you for high king but they can for Prince if Elisif back you up as your Wife

In this casse Elisif will Rule and you will Lead the Army of Skyrim as General in chef and replace Tulius if you are

a independent Skyrim.

The only thing is for Altmer I am not sure because of the Global situation.

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:24 am

:rofl:

But seriously, no. Even though the idea of Elisif with an officially recognized female Khajiit vampire consort is quite tempting.

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:06 am

If you player is a Female you would do the same with Ulfric the winner of the rebellion High King and you is Wife.

And for the Vampire option I would say think of Potema the Wolf Queen of Solitude if she can rule anybody can, or anything .

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:21 am


But what if a female DB who supports the Imperials? Say, a Khajit or Dunmer? Your idea is, unfortuantly, extremely flawed and simply will not work the way you hope it will.
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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:25 am

It seems to me that you are really limiting player options here, with your idea. Doesn't that go against the very idea of the Elder Scrolls games, where you can be anyone, and do anything?

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 8:05 am

I know this idea as flaws and some characters setups won't fit but it is only a option I would have liked.

But if you are khajit or Dunmer female you know you don't have any type of claim on royalty in skyrim.

But I think it will make sense the dragonborn stays and don't become a legendary hero.

Because like in dragon age they call player character The Warden Commander they can call the dragonborn in the history

High King Ysmir of skyrim.

Like Talos didn't rule with is real name you can name your character what you want and he will rule a Ysmir.

I am not saying it Work for all but clues say he is the Heir of Talos and Like talos I will have liked him/her to stay in history as

something more thant the Last Dragon born with no name and become a fary tail.

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:07 am

Unfortunately, for Lore & Gameplay purposes it might be difficult to do, as the Dragonborn can be any playstyle and race. I mean, imagine if the Dovahkiin who you described, as the "Ultimate Warrior" was some Khajiit Thief, it might go against, or seem strange in lore. It would also create confusion for Bethesda, if they need to reference this Dragonborn, they wouldn't be able to make them like everyone's personal Character. As someone on another Forum pointed out though, they might be able to say their identity was "lost in time", still it's a little on the cheap side. :P

Also, FYI, there is proof the Dovahkiin may be a re-incarnation of Tiber, in Hroldan Inn, Hroldan even calls the Dragonborn, 'Hjalti'

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:34 am

It's the sort of thing that might work as a mod, for people who are interested. It fails as a part of the game, because it excludes too many character options.

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Post » Mon Dec 29, 2014 6:38 am

Talos and the Last dragonborn are related in some manner for sure.

We don't know what race was talos Breton or Nords it is Lost in time they can do the same for the last dragonborn.

Even a khajiit thief with dragonborn shout ability will be remember as a ultimate warrior by most of the common folks

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