.. protect the Dark Elves from what? They're inside his city, protected by his walls. They want nothing to do with his war, yet he leaves them be -- they're taking up valuable space and using valuable resources, but Ulfric allows it. He could easily kick them all out and turn Windhelm into a fortress, but he doesn't.

He's also a bit preoccupied to be walking around his own city, being in a war and all, and I highly doublt that any of the Dark Elves go to him for help with their situation anyway -- when you first walk into Windhelm and see the Nord harassing the Dark Elf, she tells you to just leave it be. Why do you expect Ulfric to be proactive in helping the Dark Elves when they themselves don't seem too focused on asking for his help, or even expecting it?

Its official this is a thread that should not be taken seriously by anyone.

You also have to remember that the Legion wasn't sent to Skyrim protect travelers and caravans from petty bandit attacks. They were sent to Skyrim to put it in layman's terms "quell a rebellion". They don't have the luxury or the time or the resources to help all the travelers and caravans from bandits.

I actualy quoted you a lot of things.

And he doesnt send reinforcement when Nords get ambushed:

"Whenever a group of marauders attack a Nord village, Ulfric is the first to sound the horn and send the men. But a group of Dark Elf refugees gets ambushed?

There is a big difference between a village being attacked, and random travelers

As for Dunmer- Argonians:

2nd of Last Seed

Punished one of the dockworkers for laziness. Two days rations -- empty stomach means less good work for a few days, but he'll work hard from here on out.

Moderate lunch and dinner.

Agreed. When people start to argue about rascism in a game it gets me. Especially when the victims do not exist. However rascism in a game does promote the immersion so keep it up, demean or protect Ulfric who does not exist. If anyone is offended then I offer my sincerest apologies.

You're blindly calling Ulfric a racist for not doing more for a group of people that don't ask for help, nor seem to want it. It's you who should not be taken seriously.

He allows them to live in his city during wartime, even though they refuse to help out. That's not something he would do if he were racist. He would be locking them up, kicking them out, forcibly recruiting them, etc.. but no, he just leaves them alone, and that's exactly what they want.

The Dark Elves aren't asking for his help. When you first visit Windhelm and see the Dark Elf women being harassed by the Nord man, she tells you to leave it be, so why are you making such a big deal out of it?

I was more talking about the Irrational arguments that the OP and one other person were using.

Bandits that attack villages. Not random travelers. Its impossible to protect travelers in middle of a war, unless they announce they are coming.

Yes, I just remember that, and the Imperial armor that Dunmer keep in their houses.

Legion cant help because they are fighting a war, but Ulfric should help because he is fighting a war ?

It's a CW thread, what else do you expect?

true, very true. I am not sure why i even both anymore.

Exactly but you already said that so I stated my reasons.

Given that Ulfric is leading a rebellion against a superior military force, he doesn't have the luxury or the time or the resources to help all the travelers and caravans from bandits either.

You guys are holding Ulfric up to an impossible standard that none of the other Jarls meet either. The Jarl of Dawnstar didn't help his people against the nightmares; the Jarl of Solitude didn't send anyone to check out Wolfskull Cave; the Jarl of Morthal didn't sniff out the vampires to keep her people safe; the Jarl of Markarth cares only for silver and blood; the Jarl of Riften is incredibly corrupt; and the Jarl of Winterhold spends more time hating wizards than attempting to rebuild his city. Only the Jarl of Whiterun seems to have a clue. It isn't until the player comes along that anything changes in any of the holds -- the Jarls don't want to help their people until a volunteer comes along to do all their work for them.

Jarl Ulfric cares about his people. He doesn't want to kill anyone, he just wants the Empire to leave the Nords to govern themselves -- he states as much when planning with Galmar. He doesn't want to spill blood, but he has no choice. He cares for the Nords a lot, and most people are just taking that to mean he cares very little for anyone else.

Oh, and as for bandits and all that -- all the Jarls give out bounties to deal with bandits, giants, and dragons. They all care enough to do that, but they all still rely on the player who take any real action.

Remember that Dunmer allying the Empire is really big on their part. The Dunmer have always hated the Empire so that it would take a lot of something to make the ally the Imperials.

Except that the Dunmer in Windhelm are Hlalu's, who sided with the empire and were forced out by other great houses.

Also:

http://i.imgur.com/FS2lp1w.jpg

That explains... no it doesn't. The Camonna Tong controlled House Hlaalu, the most rascist, Imperial hating orgininsation ever. So why did they join with the Empire? Unless of course they have long been away from the Camonna Tong and so are more House Hlaalu.

But...they're not. Morrowind is effectively independent now, and they're functionally just staying out of it in the Grey Quarter. Sure, they're happier if Ulfric is gone, but they don't particularly care who wins the war.

So then why do they have a room full of Imperial Legion gear in the Storm Cloak capital. Is this what happened?

"Lets go on a walk. Oh whats this? Why its several full sets of Imperial armour. Who would have left it in territory where no Imperial walks on? Hmm, we'll keep it then."

The Dunmer actually do care who wins the war and they want Tullius to win.

Former Imperial Legionary, or indeed, Imperial spy. Either way, their non-involvement with the civil war means that even if they passively support it, it amounts to bunk.

And no, the Dunmer as a whole don't give a fig about who wins. The Empire is indeed despised back in Morrowind for abandoning them in the Imperial Crisis, and Raven Rock was another nail in the coffin for them. Who the refugees in they Grey Quarter support isn't particularly their concern.