Invisible Orcish Cuirass... Advice wanted.

Post » Thu Feb 12, 2015 12:31 am

So... I'm having a problem with... Orcish cuirasses being entirely invisible. So it basically looks like... Anyone wearing it, is a floating head, and floating limbs with no torso to connect said body parts. While I suppose it would be much worse to have my savegame permanently corrupted by a buggy script, it's still incredibly immersion breaking for rather obvious reasons. Fortunately I only use 66 total mods so... Hopefully solving this problem shouldn't be too confusing, compared to say, if I had hundreds of mods.

A possible clue is, I do use Better Armor cause... Seeing organic characters with square segmented bodies... Is something I prefer to avoid as far as graphical immersion is concerned, and this mod, combined with Better Bodies, results in... Much much less square looking less segmented bodies, so I consider it to be a graphical must have, and I use it.

I have a feeling that, something might be up with my Better Armor installation, or it might be conflicting with another mod, but I don't know how to fix this, or what would be the conflicting mod. Here is my mod load order to attempt to help those willing to help me get to the bottom of this.

Can someone please tell me which of these mods they think may be conflicting? I'd really appreciate it if someone could provide any clues on how to fix Morrowind, even if it was just attempted advice.

_001_ Morrowind.esm_002_ Tribunal.esm_003_ Bloodmoon.esm_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm_005_ TR_Data.esm_006_ TR_Mainland.esm_007_ Better Heads.esm_008_ wl_SolstheimOverhaul_v1.esm_009_ Wyrmhaven.esm_010_ Cyrodiil.esm_011_ PC_Data.esm_012_ GDR_MasterFile.esm_013_ MCA.esm_014_ Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm_015_ Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm_016_ BuyoantArmigersArmor.ESP_017_ Vampire_Embrace.esp_018_ New Khajiit Diversity(BEAST)X.esp_019_ TR_Alpha.ESP_020_ Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp_021_ Better Bodies.esp_022_ Silt Strider Armor - Ashlander Guards.ESP_023_ Sotha Sil Expanded.ESP_024_ AreaEffectArrows.esp_025_ AkulakhanCloud  (Optional).ESP_026_ MCA - TR Addon.esp_027_ MCA - Khajiit Diversity Revamped Addon.esp_028_ Kagrekhan.ESP_029_ Great House Dagoth.esp_030_ Vampire Realism II.esp_031_ Vampire Realism II - TB Add-On.esp_032_ Vampire Realism II - BM Add-On.esp_033_ ShockCenturionCompanion_TB_V11.esp_034_ The Tribe Unmourned (GHD).esp_035_ Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp_036_ Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.ESP_037_ Welcome to the Arena! v6.6.esp_038_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp_039_ Ships of the Imperial Navy.esp_040_ Dwemer Slot Machine v1_0_BETA.esp_041_ StirkGrass.ESP_042_ Old_dwemer_books_Better_typography.esp_043_ Old_dwemer_books.esp_044_ Clean MCFC_1.0.ESP_045_ Magistrate Uvirith Revamped.esp_046_ Magic Diversity 1.0.ESP_047_ LowerFirstPersonSneak.ESP_048_ KDSpectacles.ESP_049_ New Robes.esp_050_ Siege at Firemoth.esp_051_ ExpandedBirthsigns4Purists.esp_052_ EBQ_Artifact.esp_053_ Deus Ex Machina - A Steampunkyish Mod.ESP_054_ COI.ESP_055_ BuyoantArmigersArmorResource.ESP_056_ BlightedAnimalsRetextured.esp_057_ Black Clothes.esp_058_ More Better Clothes.ESP_059_ Better Skulls.ESP_060_ FLG - Balmora's Underworld V1.1.esp_061_ Vampire Realism II - VE Patch.esp_062_ abotSiltStridersTR.esp_063_ Better Morrowind Armor.esp_064_ Better Morrowind Armor DeFemm(a).ESP_065_ Vurt's Ashlands Overhaul.esp_066_ Mashed Lists.esp
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Darrell Fawcett
 
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Post » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:42 pm

I've converted many pieces of clothing to Morrowind and I know for sure that if clothing or armor is invisible, then the NIF file must have an invalid Tri Shape. Do you have NIFSkope?

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Post » Thu Feb 12, 2015 6:43 am

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you are supposed to use only one of the Better Morrowind Armor plugins. Try disabling the first one and see what happens.

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Post » Wed Feb 11, 2015 4:02 pm

No. They both should be activated. The De-Femme just changes the cuirass.

I'd go with Envy on this one. Looks like a problematic NIF file.

PS : The problem is with the De-Femme patch. Orcish cuirass doesn't have Body Part assigned. Its a simple fix.

Open the De-Femme patch in CS and scroll down to 'Orcish Cuirass' in the 'Armor' tab. Then assign Chest to 'bam_orcish_cuiras' under Male Armor. And save the plugin. The Orcish Cuirass should appear now.

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Post » Wed Feb 11, 2015 10:18 pm

Thanks a lot for the advice... Here's what I did based off of your advice.

http://i.imgur.com/RtjWNUy.png

http://i.imgur.com/QM2pM2H.png

http://i.imgur.com/Tmc655w.png

Originally in the De-Femme patch esp there WAS no bam_orcish_cuirass in the bodyparts so I had to create it first, then I added said bodypart to the armor tab of orcish cuirass, saved the plugin and started the game with both armor mods activated... However the cuirass still causes whatever torso it is worn on to disappear, in spite of it appearing fine on the ground. I wonder if I did something wrong. When I did this all, I had only Morrowind ESM open with the De-Femme Patch as the Active File... I'm not sure what's going on.

Either I didn't do it right, or there's an extremely sneaky hard to detect mod conflict... Or something is going on with the orcish cuirass nif from the better armor mod.

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