» Thu Feb 26, 2015 4:19 am Hello, I have a few questions regarding the plugin cleaning process.
I'm new to playing modded Oblivion, but have learned a bit on using Wrye Bash, managing load order with BOSS, and cleaning plugins (including the TES4Edit Cleaning Guide). Though even after some searching around for info, I'm still unsure about a few things.
1) I know the Unofficial Patches should not be cleaned, but is that applicable to just the main one in the package, ie, "Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp" or is it applicable to all the plugins in each package?
2) I've also read that "Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esm" and "Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp" shouldn't be cleaned. Is that applicable to all the OOO plugins as well, including "Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul - Knights.esp", "OOO-Water_Weeds.esp", and "OOO-Level_Slow.esp" ?
3) There was a page I came across that says "undelete and disable references" is safe for any plugin. Could someone else here verify that this is indeed safe? Forum won't let me post links, but it was from "TESIV:POSitive" and could be found by googling the following:
oblivion plugin cleaning "undelete and disable references"
I apologize if I come off as sounding a bit picky about this, though I would prefer to make sure I get things right beforehand rather than put hours into a save and then find it has all kinds of issues that result in me correcting them and having to start over.
Here's my load order:
00 Oblivion.esm01 Jog_X_Mod.esm02 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.34]03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta]05 Better Cities Resources.esm [Version 5.5.3]06 Knights - Revelation.esm07 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.2]08 Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.6]0B Better Cities .esp0C All Natural.esp [Version 1.35]0D All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.35]++ Symphony of Violence.esp0E All Natural - Real Lights.esp [Version 1.35]0F Camping.esp10 Enhanced Economy.esp [Version 5.4.3]11 QZ Easy Menus.esp12 Spell Delete.esp13 Dynamic Map.esp [Version 2.1.1]14 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.9.3]15 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.9.3]16 Enhanced Hotkeys.esp [Version 2.3.1]17 DLCHorseArmor.esp18 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.8]19 DLCOrrery.esp1A DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.6]1B DLCVileLair.esp1C DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]1D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp1E DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.7]1F DLCSpellTomes.esp++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]20 DLCThievesDen.esp21 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.13]22 DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.13]23 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]24 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]++ Cobl Tweaks.esp [Version 1.44]25 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta]++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]** OMOBS_SI.esp [Version 2.0]26 OOOAddonUndead.esp27 OOOAddonWilderness.esp28 OOODangerousDaedra.esp29 OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]2A ProtocolledDialogs.esp2B Devastation of Kvatch.esp2C LetThePeopleDrink.esp [Version 2.7]2D thievery.esp2E thievery - EE patch.esp [Version 4.2]2F Treasure Maps complete compilation-UL edition.esp30 VHBloodlines 1.2.esp [Version 1.5.6]31 Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp [Version 3.1]32 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp33 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.10]34 DLCFrostcrag.esp35 DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]36 Knights.esp37 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.1.6]38 Knights - Revelation.esp39 SM Plugin Refurbish(Merged).esp [Version 1.30]++ Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul - Knights of Nine.esp3A The Lost Spires.esp3B MTCThievesGrottoV4.1.esp3C xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]3D LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp3E xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]3F xulTheHeath.esp40 xulEntiusGorge.esp [Version 1.2.1]41 xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]42 LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp43 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.2]44 ThievesGrotto-ColovianHighlands patch.esp45 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.3]46 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.5]47 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.5]48 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3.3]49 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.4]4A xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]4B xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]4C xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.4]4D xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]4E xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.3]4F xulPantherRiver.esp50 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]51 xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.1.1]52 xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.8]53 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.1.1]54 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]55 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.3]56 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp [Version 1.0.2]57 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0.5]58 OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp [Version 1.1]59 xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp [Version 1.1.3]5A OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp [Version 1.2]5B xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp [Version 1.0.4]5C Lost Spires + Silverfish River Patch.esp [Version 1.0]5D xulJerallGlacier.esp [Version 1.0.2]5E OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp [Version 1.0]5F xulTheEasternPeaks.esp [Version 1.1.4]60 Better Cities - House price patch.esp [Version 1.0]61 HUD Status Bars.esp [Version 6.0]62 ExpandedGreetings.esp [Version 1.0]63 Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp [Version 3.2.1]64 PersuasionOverhaul.esp [Version 1.43]++ PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp [Version 1.2]65 Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp66 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.2.0]67 Basic Primary Needs.esp [Version 6.3]68 Enhanced Grabbing.esp [Version 0.5]++ OOO-Level_Slow.esp [Version 1.33]++ Item interchange - Extraction.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement.esp [Version 0.76]++ Item interchange - Placement for Frostcrag.esp [Version 0.76]69 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.0]6A Better Cities Full.esp [Version 5.5.3]6B Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.5.2]6C BC_Aristocrat_UL Patch.esp6D Better Imperial City.esp [Version 5.5.3]6E Better Cities - All Natural.esp [Version 5.5.0]6F Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp [Version 1.3]70 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp [Version 1.3]71 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp [Version 1.4]++ Better Cities - MOBS.esp [Version 5.5.3]72 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Panther River patch.esp [Version 1.4]73 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp [Version 5.3.0]74 Better Cities - Thievery.esp [Version 5.5.0]75 Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp [Version 5.5.0]76 Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp [Version 5.5.0]++ Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 5.5.0]77 Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp [Version 5.3.0]78 Automatic Timescale.esp [Version 1.1.1]++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]79 Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp [Version 01]** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.35]7A Bashed Patch, 0.esp
OBSE v21 with following plugins:
FastExit 2.0OblivionStutterRemover 4.1.37MenuQue 16bPluggy 132-devElysUniversalSilentVoice 0.93Blockhead 9.2EnhancedCamera 1.4b
NTCore 4gb patch applied to Oblivion.exe and obse_loader.exe
Please also let me know if there's anything in the above lists that stands out as potentially causing issues here. Btw, if it makes any difference at all, I'm running Oblivion with Wine on Arch Linux
Thank you in advance 
- quietraccoon
