Heavily Modded Game Crashing : IV

» Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:52 pm

Help! My game is crashing in the exact same spots every 3 minutes or so. I can barely play more than 5 minutes before another crash occurs somewhere else.

I'm using ENBoost mod set at:

[PROXY]

EnableProxyLibrary=false

InitProxyFunctions=true

ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[MULTIHEAD]

ForceVideoAdapterIndex=true

VideoAdapterIndex=0

[MEMORY]

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true

ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=false

DisableDriverMemoryManager=false

DisablePreloadToVRAM=false

EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true

ReservedMemorySizeMb=78 (also tried 256, 512, 620, 1024, 1800, 204

VideoMemorySizeMb=1800

EnableCompression=true

[WINDOW]

ForceBorderless=false

ForceBorderlessFullscreen=true

[ENGINE]

ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true

MaxAnisotropy=16

AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false

[LIMITER]

WaitBusyRenderer=true

EnableFPSLimit=true

FPSLimit=60.0

and MoreHeap set at 1024,

and OSR version 1.37 set at:

FPS manager disabled

Experimental disabled

bUseOverrides=1

iDefaultMode = 3

iDefaultSpin = 2500

iStaggerLevel = 5

iHeapAlgorith = 6

iHeapSize = 768 (also tried 1024, 840 and 512 - all crash)

Oblivion .ini:

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bSelectivePurgeUnusedOnFastTravel=0

bEnableProfile=0

bDrawSpellContact=0

bRunMiddleLowLevelProcess=1

iHoursToSleep=3

bActorLookWithHavok=0

SMainMenuMusicTrack=special\tes4title.mp3

bUseEyeEnvMapping=1

bFixFaceNormals=0

bUseFaceGenHeads=1

bFaceMipMaps=1

bFaceGenTexturing=1

bDefaultCOCPlacement=0

uGridDistantTreeRange=15

uGridDistantCount=14

uGridsToLoad=5

fGlobalTimeMultiplier=1.0000

bNewAnimation=1

fAnimationDefaultBlend=0.1000

fAnimationMult=1.0000

bFixAIPackagesOnLoad=0

bForceReloadOnEssentialCharacterDeath=1

bKeepPluginWhenMerging=0

bCreate Maps Enable=0

SLocalSavePath=Saves\

SLocalMasterPath=Data\

bDisableDuplicateReferenceCheck=1

bTintMipMaps=0

uInterior Cell Buffer=3

uExterior Cell Buffer=36

iIntroSequencePriority=3

bPreloadIntroSequence=1

fStaticScreenWaitTime=3.0000

SCreditsMenuMovie=CreditsMenu.bik

SMainMenuMovie=Map loop.bik

SMainMenuMovieIntro=Oblivion iv logo.bik

SIntroSequence=bethesda softworks HD720p.bik,2k games.bik,game studios.bik,Oblivion Legal.bik

iFPSClamp=0

bRunVTuneTest=0

STestFile1=

bActivateAllQuestScripts=0

fQuestScriptDelayTime=5.0000

SMainMenuMusic=Special\TES4Title.mp3

bUseThreadedBlood=0

bUseThreadedMorpher=0

bExternalLODDataFiles=1

bBorderRegionsEnabled=0

bDisableHeadTracking=0

bTrackAllDeaths=0

SCharGenQuest=0002466E

uiFaceGenMaxEGTDataSize=67108864

uiFaceGenMaxEGMDataSize=67108864

SBetaCommentFileName=

bCheckCellOffsetsOnInit=0

bCreateShaderPackage=0

uGridDistantTreeRangeCity=4

uGridDistantCountCity=4

bWarnOnMissingFileEntry=0

iSaveGameBackupCount=1

bDisplayMissingContentDialogue=1

SSaveGameSafeCellID=2AEEA

bAllowScriptedAutosave=1

bPreemptivelyUnloadCells=0

bCheckIDsOnInit=0

iNumBitsForFullySeen=248

iPreloadSizeLimit=209715200

SOblivionIntro=OblivionIntro.bik

bUseHardDriveCache=1

bEnableBoundingVolumeOcclusion=0

bDisplayBoundingVolumes=0

bUseThreadedTempEffects=0

bUseThreadedParticleSystem=0

bUseMyGamesDirectory=1

...and Purger set at 200 with Purge on Reload = 1

I'm crashing on the turn to the door to Imperial City Better Cities version, right in front of Corinthe in Eslweyr Anequina, on the road to Duncori Walk, right in front of Aleswell, approaching the main road on the Niben from the farmland in Bravil Barrowfields UL mod. The crashing got worse after installing the Jungle Overhaul and then uninstalling it.

Much help would be appreciated. Thanks.

» Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:37 pm

First, if you want specific advice, you need to post your load order.

This type of crash could be the result of a mod conflict or an out of memory error. Here is some general advice.

If its a mod conflict, you will need to use a process of elimination to isolate the problem mod and then either uninstall it or figure out what the conflict is and how to resolve it. Deactivate half your mods and see if the problem persists. Keep cutting your load order in half until you isolate the mod that is causing the problem.

Are you using the 4GB patch? My heavily modded game will crash without fail at certain points unless I have applied the 4GB patch correctly. I also cap FPS at 30 in OSR to keep memory from being used up too quickly. With an uncapped FPS, my heavily modded game crashes every hour or two at certain points when the game starts loading new cells, even with the 4GB patch. With FPS capped at 30, I can play for hours without crashing, but I usually reboot every couple of hours to keep everything fresh.

Finally, did you use "http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes4Mod:Clean_Save" procedures when you uninstalled the jungle mod? If not, your save could be messed up, in which case you may need to go back to an earlier save or start a new game.

» Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:00 am

What Better Cities version are you using?

Also, please put the content of the Oblivion.ini in a spoiler. Thanks.

» Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:35 pm

Yes I use 4gb patch. I don't think I made a clean save after uninstalling the jungle mod unfortunately. Here's my load order:

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Active Mod Files:

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00  Oblivion.esm01  TR_OoT_Main.esm  [Version 17]02  Hammerfell.esm03  Morrowind_ob.esm04  SettlementsOfCyrodiil.esm  [Version 1.3]05  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.1.5]07  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]08  Marriage.esm09  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 5.3.3]0A  Old School Dungeons.esm0B  TOCP.esm0C  RealisticLeveling.esm0D  Knights - Revelation.esm0E  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.4.4]0F  UOPS Additional Changes.esp10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Better Cities .esp  [Version 5.3.0]12  LoadingScreens.esp13  LoadingScreensSI.esp14  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]15  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]16  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]17  Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp  [Version 2.01]18  Dynamic Snow Accumulation - Better Cities Bruma by Xtudo.esp19  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]1A  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]1B  IlluminationWithin.esp1C  AliveWaters.esp1D  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp1E  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp1F  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp20  Marriage Patch.esp  [Version 1.2]21  Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp22  PassengerShips_BetterCities.esp23  VA_BetterGold.esp24  Crowded Cities 15.esp25  Crowded Roads.esp  [Version 2.0]26  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]27  DLCHorseArmor.esp28  DLCOrrery.esp29  DLCVileLair.esp2A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2B  DLCSpellTomes.esp2C  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp2D  Immersive Weapons.esp2E  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp2F  Vvardenfell_Imports.esp30  Weapon Improvement Project.esp  [Version 1.5]31  Weapons Of Morrowind.esp  [Version 1.0]32  RealSwords - Argonian LO-NPC.esp33  RealSwords - Bosmer LO-NPC.esp34  RealSwords - Breton LO-NPC.esp35  RealSwords - Dunmer LO-NPC.esp36  RealSwords - Goblin.esp37  RealSwords - Nord LO-NPC SI.esp38  RealSwords - Orc LO-NPC v1.0.esp39  RealSwords - Redguard LO-NPC.esp3A  Slof's Horses Base.esp3B  Slof's Extra Horses.esp3C  DLCThievesDen.esp3D  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]3E  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]3F  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]40  TamrielTravellersItemsnpc.esp  [Version 1.39c]41  TamrielTravellersItemsVendor.esp  [Version 1.39c]42  TamrielTravellersItemsUnscaled.esp  [Version 1.39c]43  BlackMarsh.esp  [Version 0.0.2.4]44  Morrowind_ob.esp45  Morrowind_ob - MorrowOblivion Eloth Landscape & Grass for v033.esp46  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion_Chargen_And_Transport_Mod_v8.esp47  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp48  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp49  Morrowind_ob - ClothingReplacer.esp4A  Morrowind_ob - Almalexia.esp4B  Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp4C  Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp  [Version 1.0]4D  Voice Overs V002.esp4E  Orden des Drachen.esp  [Version 2014]4F  SOC-RegionalFarms.esp50  TamrielTransportationNetwork.esp51  An Old School Dungeon.esp52  Bandit Hideouts.esp53  BD&R - Deepgrave.esp54  Dungeons of Tamriel.esp  [Version 1.0.2]55  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp56  Imperial City Suburbs.esp57  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.7]58  MushroomManor.esp59  TR_Stirk.esp5A  Stirk_Compatibility_Patch.esp5B  Unique Dungeons - Lichs Lair.esp5C  Unique Dungeons - Lost Glory.esp5D  Valenwood Improved.esp5E  Wayshrines Enhanced.esp5F  DLCFrostcrag.esp60  Knights.esp61  FishermansCottage.esp  [Version 3]62  FishermansCottage-LostCoast patch.esp  [Version 1.0.0]63  The Lost Spires.esp64  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.Non-COBL]65  LegionOutposts.esp66  ElsweyrAnequina.esp67  ElsweyrCityExtension.esp68  ElsweyrValenwoodImprovedPatch.esp69  HammerfellBorders.esp6A  ClearwaterFarms.esp6B  Faregyl.esp  [Version 2.0.11]6C  Faregyl+Anequina Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]6D  Oranstad.esp6E  PTMudwater.esp6F  SilverfishFalls.esp70  Vergayun.esp  [Version 2.0.2]71  WhiteRoseFarm.esp72  Griffon Fortress 7.2.esp73  WickmereFarm.esp74  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]75  xulTheHeath.esp76  XulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]77  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]78  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp79  Valenwood Improved - Fallenleaf Everglade EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7A  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]7B  Hammerfell-ColovianHighlands patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7C  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]7D  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]7E  Hammerfell+UL Lost Coast Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.4]80  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.2]81  Clearwater-Woodlands Patch.esp82  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]83  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]84  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]85  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]86  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]87  AFK_Weye Arrius_Creek Patch.esp88  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]89  xulPantherRiver.esp8A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]8B  Valenwood Improved - River Ethe EV - Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]8C  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]8D  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]8E  ImperialCitySuburbs-ImperialIsle patch.esp8F  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]90  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]91  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]92  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]93  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.5]94  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.12]95  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.3]96  SilverfishFalls-ULSilverfishPatch.esp97  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.1]98  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.1.4]99  GriffonFortress-EasternPeaks Patch.esp9A  ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp9B  ImpeREALForts+LostSpires Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]9C  bartholm.esp9D  Streamline 3.0.esp9E  Better Dungeons.esp9F  Grass Overhaul.espA0  Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp  [Version 3.2.0]A1  SnusDungeons.espA2  SnusDungeons - BD patch.espA3  tbskGuardsFeatures.espA4  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.espA5  Elz - Realistic Gravity.espA6  Kaizits New Animations NPC.espA7  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]A8  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]A9  Enhanced Vegetation [150%].espAA  Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]AB  Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7]AC  Morrowind_ob - Hlaalu.espAD  Disable Fast Travel.espAE  Hammerfell Addons.espAF  RihadNudges.espB0  Morroblivion - Silt Striders.espB1  Dirtier Bravil.espB2  ShippingOnNiben.espB3  drunk_with_SI.espB4  Billyro Morrowind Swords.espB5  Billyro Hammerfell Curved Swords.espB6  Instruments of Cyrodiil.espB7  Purger.espB8  SnusDungeons_EnglishCellNames.espB9  TamrielTransport-ValenwoodElsweyr.espBA  TamrielTransport-BlackMarshElsweyr.espBB  TamrielTransport-BlackMarshMorrowind.espBC  TamrielTransport-Hammerfell.espBD  CoO1.espBE  Anvil_Dungeon.espBF  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 5.3.0]C0  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 5.3.0]C1  Better Cities - All Natural.espC2  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp  [Version 5.1.2]C3  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 5.3.0]C4  Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.espC5  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 5.3.0]C6  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 5.3.0]C7  ImprovedSigns.espC8  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.espC9  Better Cities - The Lost Spires.espCA  Better Cities - Vvardenfell Imports.esp  [Version 5.2.7]CB  LegionOutposts-BCFullPatch.espCC  OblivionReloaded.espCD  _Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp

» Wed Mar 18, 2015 5:25 am

That's an awefully long load order not to be using Wrye Bash for its bashed patch. There are a lot of mods I don't use, so I can only offer limited advice, but I would consider installing Wrye Bash and generating a bashed patch with a load order that long.

Also, how are you sorting the load order? I'd recommend using the latest version of BOSS, if you haven't already.

I also noticed you are using Better Cities, but your version is pretty outdated (current version is 5.5.3a), as well as something called "Open Cities Resources.esm [Version 4.1.5]". That does not sound like a Better Cities file, is it from Open Cities Reborn? I'd recommend trimming the load order down a bit, since it is really long, and just sticking with one mod that makes cities better. Better Cities has an open cities option so you don't need both of those. You have also got crowded cities and crowded roads. These types of mods are very hard on the system, especially when used in conjunction with each other. At some point, you are going to exceed the available memory, even with the 4GB patch.

You also have a bunch of esp files from a mod that is not allowed to be discussed here, but from your opening post, it sounded like you were trying to play Oblivion, not Morrowind, so I am confused why those files are even in your load order. I would get rid of them.

I would also get rid of streamline. It was causing similar crashes in my game. Streamline is designed for low end computers, and I am assuming you have a decent rig. If not, then you should probably not be attempting to run heavily modded Oblivion in the first place. Lower end machines should stick with lightly modded or at most moderately modded. In any event, I had similar crashes that were occurring in specific places and I traced them directly back to streamline. When I removed Streamline, the crashes stopped. So, I no longer use streamline.