I wanted the Thieves Guild trophies that show up on the headquarter shelves to be takeable. About half already are but the ones from the radient quests like the golden goblet are not. In the CK they are shown to be activators not msc objects. I moved them into the void and put duplicated msc versions in their place set on starting disabled. I set the activator copies as enable parents. That seems to work. When the activator versions are enabled so are my msc versions. Problem is when I go into the game to test it the activator is back on the shelf knocking my msc object onto the floor. I can't test it on a brand new game because it's a fairly lengthy process to get the trophies to get enabled. Is the problem that the position of the activators got fixed in my save game?