Disappearing Armour Smithing : V

» Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:42 pm

When I try to smith at a forge, I have no options. My character has the Orcish smithing perk, but the only option is arrows. Even if I don't have the materials they should still appear as greyed-out things, right? There's no options for any vanilla armour creation apart from leather amour.

I've got immersive weapons and armours installed, and the immersive weapons options are the only weapons I can actually create. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

» Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:29 am

Could you post your load order?

» Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:05 am

Modlist from Mod Organiser:

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ETaC - RESOURCES.esm

Highrock.esp

BlackreachRailroad.ESM

moonpath.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-WinterEdition.esp

blackreachrailroad.esp

ETaC - Complete.esp

SkyUI.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Althirs Camping Tools English.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

weardargonbarnrobsovurarurm.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - NPC Bartering.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

dualcastefficiency.esp

Remove Helmet Requirement From Armor Perk Bonuses.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Convenient Horses.esp

sandboxcylinderheight.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Dovahkiin prayer.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

WetandCold.esp

Headtracking.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

KillableStormcloakCommanders.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp

Mercy.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

WeaponRangeFix.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

betterwards.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeak.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_USKP-Patch.esp

RND_AnimalLoot.esp

CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp

ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

wearrobsovurarurm.esp

CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Dragonborn.esp

FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Realistic Needs And Diseases.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Hearthfire.esp

donorcollegejoin.esp

College of Winterhold Entry Requirements.esp

iHUD.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakDLC - Dawnguard.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - Cutting Room Floor.esp

morrowloot.esp

ArchmageTolfdir.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

_admod.esp

RealShelter.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Orsinium Reborn.esp

Immersive Interiors.esp

ESFCompanions.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-ThievesGuildRequirementsPatch.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

realcompanions_silverhand_bmb.esp

Unique Uniques.esp

realcompanions_shieldbrotherandsister_bmb.esp

realcompanions_circle_skjor_bmb.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Immersive Solstheim.esp

Freedom of Speech -- Dawnguard.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Freedom of Speech.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Economics of Skyrim.esp

TradeBarter.esp

realcompanions_skyforge_bmb.esp

towBlockSteal.esp

trainwiz's ridiculously marvelous magelight replacer.esp

transportato - ships.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

HigherLevelEnemies.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

TCG.esp

Fixed Followers.esp

realcompanions_circle_vilkas_bmb.esp

realcompanions_circle_aela_bmb.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

moonpath_questdata.esp

Immersive Patrols II.esp

More Dynamic Injuries.esp

rideable netch.esp

transportato - trains.esp

WheelsOfLull.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

mjhKhajiitSpeakMod - The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

dwemer spectres.esp

Breaking and Entering.esp

followers keep up.esp

aethernautics.esp

realcompanions_underforge_bmb.esp

bladessmithing.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Apocalypse - More Apocalypse.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

Open Cities Skyrim.esp

» Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:26 am

Did you use loot to sort this?

» Wed Apr 01, 2015 6:27 pm

Mod organiser doesn't seem to use Loot to sort its final order, although I have run Loot within MO.

» Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:55 pm

It's gotta be somewhere in there. A bashed patch would probably help. Maybe even a merged patch.

Do you know about those?

» Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:50 pm

I know the principle of merged mods, but haven't tried to do them for Skyrim. I didn't think that the mods were treading on each other enough to require it. Any suggestions on what would be doing it and how to make a start?

Going over that list, I think there's more than is actually running in that list... although the only ones I can think of that are influencing smithing are the following, in their load order I think...

Immersive Weapons.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

bladessmithing.esp

» Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:26 am

I would recommend you start disabling some mods. Maybe the ones you mentioned. See if the issue goes away. Don't overwrite any saves while doing this and don't load autosaves.

Just load a save and try it. IF nothing then quit and try some others.

» Thu Apr 02, 2015 5:31 am

I think Ars Metallica hides recipes when you don't have all the necessary components. It's been quite a while since I used it, so I could be wrong. Have you tried looking through any of your MCM's (Mod Configuration Menu) for these mods?

» Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:45 am

Does it show them but greyed out if you only have a few ingredients, then? That could be why...

» Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:21 pm

Ars Metallica doesn't hide recipes when lacking components.