How to resolve frequent crashing with OOO? : IV

» Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:57 pm

How much crashing is "normal" for OOO? I've started a new game with v1.36, and I'm crashing about half the time I change cells or fast travel, and crashing every 2-5 minutes when wandering about in Tamriel. I have another completely separate install with the same mods (plus more) but without OOO, and crashing is extremely rare. Is there an incompatibility somewhere I am missing, or is this just the normal-and-accepted crash frequency? Any help would be appreciated.

Load order:

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00 Oblivion.esm

01 All Natural Base.esm [Version 1.36]
02 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.73]
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.35Beta]
04 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp [Version 1.0]
05 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.5.2]
++ Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
06 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
07 Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.5.6]
08 All Natural.esp [Version 1.36]
09 All Natural - SI.esp [Version 1.36]
++ Silent Player Voice.esp [Version 1.0]
0A WindowLightingSystem.esp
0B Book Jackets Oblivion.esp [Version 1.0]
** Cobl Bookjackets.esp
++ No Weapon Litter.esp [Version 1.0]
0C Benirus Manor LOD Fix.esp [Version 1.0]
0D RAEVWD Cities.esp [Version 1.9]
0E RAEVWD New Sheoth.esp [Version 1.7]
++ Regrowing Nirnroot - Normal Plant.esp [Version 1.01]
0F Skyrim Ingredients.esp [Version 0.61]
10 Harvest Nearby Flora.esp [Version 1.02]
11 BTA Keybinds.esp [Version 1.0]
** Book Jackets DLC.esp [Version 1.3]
++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
++ CM_Better Wine_SI.esp
12 Neck Seam Concealers Expanded.esp [Version 1.1-SI]
13 Neck Seam Concealers Expanded DD.esp [Version 1.1]
14 Neck Seam Concealers Expanded LL.esp [Version 1.1-SI-A]
15 Horse Management.esp [Version 1.31-SI]
++ Stuff Respawns & Respawning Stuff Marked SI.esp [Version 1.01-SI]
16 Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp [Version 1.5]
17 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.73]
18 Cobl Options Droppable.esp [Version 1.0-1.73]
19 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]
++ Cobl Patch - Hunger Tongue.esp
1A Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.35Beta]
1B OOO Torch Token Droppable.esp [Version 1.36-1.0]
1C Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp [Version 3]
++ Cobl Tweaks - OOO.esp [Version 1.72]
** EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer for OOO.esp
1D Finders Keepers.esp [Version 0.9]
++ Cheydinhal Land Texture Fix.esp [Version 2.01]
1E Better Abandoned House.esp [Version 2.01]
1F Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 4.82-Cobl-SI]
++ Better Benirus Manor - AN Patch.esp [Version 4.82-Natural]
20 Kvatch Rebuilt.esp [Version 3.0b5]
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Burned Ground.esp [Version 3.0b5]
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Stoopid Double Walls Dammit - Peace.esp [Version 3.0pb5-1.0]
++ Kvatch Rebuilt - No More Stoopid Burned Trees Dammit.esp [Version 3.0pb5-1.0]
21 Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
22 StopDarkBrotherhood.esp
23 Glowing Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones 14-28 Days.esp
24 The Lost Spires.esp
25 Automagic Bags.esp [Version 4.03]
26 EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp [Version 1.0]
++ SpicyFoxVanillaArmorReplacer.esp [Version 1.3]
27 Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp [Version 3.1.1]
28 ATakesAll.esp [Version 1.0]
29 Quest Award Leveller.esp [Version 2.1.0-Fixed]
2A Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp [Version 1.2]
2B Mark And Recall.esp [Version 1.2-SI]
2C Remove Extra Data.esp [Version 1.3]
2D spelliconreplace.esp [Version 1.0]
2E EnchantmentRestore.esp [Version 1.9]
2F kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp [Version 0.55]
30 RetroHealth.esp [Version 1.0]
31 X.Races.Comp.esp [Version 1.31]
32 Arren.esp [Version 4.8]
++ EVE_KhajiitFix.esp [Version 1.0]
33 Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp [Version 2.03]
++ bgHighElfSeamReducerFixEV.esp [Version 1.0]
34 DBWBMR.esp [Version 1.22]
++ NoEnchantmentGlow.esp [Version 1.0]
++ Light Spell Recolor Soft Gold.esp [Version 1.0]
++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]
** All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp [Version 1.36]
35 OblivionReloaded.esp [Version 2.1]
36 OblivionReloaded - No Auto Token.esp [Version 2.1-1.0]
37 Bashed Patch.esp

» Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:17 am

There's an http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1502917-relz-cobl-no18/page-3#entry23973889 reported with COBL. The OOO tweaks are very old as well. Drop them?

» Wed Jul 15, 2015 3:33 pm

That's not a massive load order, know most of those mods and can't see anything obvious - I don't know anything about Oblivion Reloaded and a couple of others, though. But it could be to do with spawn points - the fast travel/changing cells usually expose problems here - which obviously OOO affects a lot. Is this within the first 3 days or so of the game when everything is spawning? (I get many more CTDs early on in the game - this is running FCOM with OOO incorporated and a bunch of other stuff that creates a frenzy of spawning.) If so, I'd recommend the old 'coc testinghall and wait for 3 days before resuming' routine.

Or, did you maybe clean OOO, because I think you shouldn't (or so BOSS says...)

Ah, should have seen that, probably missed because of FCOM which is somewhat different. But does it CTD? Never mind, needs fixing anyway...