Are you proud of your mod order list? : III

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:03 pm

Apologies in advance if this is an aberant/redundant topic:

Im very proud of this and so it spurs me to make my first topic.

Spoiler

GameFile0=Assassins Armory.esm
GameFile1=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
GameFile2=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
GameFile3=Better Heads.esm
GameFile4=Bloodmoon.esm
GameFile5=Book Rotate.esm
GameFile6=GDR_MasterFile.esm
GameFile7=GIANTS.esm
GameFile8=H.E.L.L.U.V.A._Merchant_Containers.esm
GameFile9=Hilgya the Seamstress.esm
GameFile10=MAO.esm
GameFile11=MCA.esm
GameFile12=MW_Children_1_0.esm
GameFile13=Morrowind Advanced.esm
GameFile14=Morrowind Patch v1.6.6_beta.esm
GameFile15=Morrowind.esm
GameFile16=Rise of House Telvanni.esm
GameFile17=THE Facepack Compilation.esm
GameFile18=TR_Data.esm
GameFile19=TR_Mainland.esm
GameFile20=The Wilderness Mod 2.0 T & B.esm
GameFile21=Tribunal.esm
GameFile22=Weapon Rotate.esm
GameFile23=abotWaterLife.esm
GameFile24=￡exa's Dwemer Alchemy V2 (EN).esm
GameFile25=A Hermit's Request.esp
GameFile26=Accurate Attack v1.2.esp
GameFile27=Advanced Herbalism - Planter Add-On.esp
GameFile28=Advanced Herbalism - TR & BM.esp
GameFile29=Advanced Herbalism_patch.esp
GameFile30=Adventurers Guild.esp
GameFile31=Ald-ruhn Expansion 1.76.esp
GameFile32=Amulets and Rings 2.1 Upgrade A.esp
GameFile33=Animated Morrowind - Expanded - MCA_Patch.esp
GameFile34=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
GameFile35=Animated Morrowind II.esp
GameFile36=Antares Big Mod.esp
GameFile37=Appropriate Greetings M - T - 1.5.2.esp
GameFile38=Assassins Armory - Bolt Rifles.esp
GameFile39=Assassins Armory - No Scripts.esp
GameFile40=Assassins Armory - Unofficial Patch 7.7.esp
GameFile41=BAR_RethanExpansion_v1.3.esp
GameFile42=BB_Grimoires.esp
GameFile43=BE 1.4 -Golden Arrow fix-.esp
GameFile44=BUUG Alchemy- Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile45=BUUG Alchemy- Tribunal.esp
GameFile46=Balmora Expansion v1.4.esp
GameFile47=Beasts of Vvardenfell 1.35.esp
GameFile48=Better Bodies.esp
GameFile49=Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
GameFile50=Better Robes TR.esp
GameFile51=Better Robes TR_Patch.esp
GameFile52=Better Robes.ESP
GameFile53=Better Robes_v0.3.1 Patch.esp
GameFile54=Bisixual Vampiric Lust (URMA).esp
GameFile55=Blood Lines I_BloodMoon.esp
GameFile56=Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp
GameFile57=Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
GameFile58=Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
GameFile59=Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
GameFile60=Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
GameFile61=Books of Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile62=Building Up Uvirith's Legacy1.1.ESP
GameFile63=Centurion′s_Stronghold_Extension_V21.esp
GameFile64=Clean Board Games.esp
GameFile65=Clean Orphanage.ESP
GameFile66=Clear Your Name.esp
GameFile67=CoM_Fix.ESP
GameFile68=Creatures.esp
GameFile69=DA_Sobitur_Facility_Clean.ESP
GameFile70=DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_1 Clean.esp
GameFile71=DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_2 Clean.esp
GameFile72=DA_Sobitur_Repurposed_1.ESP
GameFile73=DN-GDRv1.1_NOM.esp
GameFile74=Deus Ex Machina - A Steampunkyish Mod.ESP
GameFile75=DodgeTribunal-v21.esp
GameFile76=Dracandros Voice.esp
GameFile77=Ebonheart, Shack Town.esp
GameFile78=Enemy H2H Damage.esp
GameFile79=Enhanced Economics 2.0.esp
GameFile80=Enhanced Economics 2.1.esp
GameFile81=Fair Magicka Regen 2.0b.esp
GameFile82=Frostmoth Docks.ESP
GameFile83=GIANTS Ultimate Control file.esp
GameFile84=GIANTS_Ultimate_Official_Fixes.esp
GameFile85=Give Your Orders.esp
GameFile86=Gnisis Shacktown.esp
GameFile87=Gnisis Shacktown_rivefrontV 1..esp
GameFile88=Gothic Attire Complete.esp
GameFile89=Grow Towers [Final].esp
GameFile90=H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Bountiful Books.esp
GameFile91=H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Handy Holdables.esp
GameFile92=HELLUVA Balanced Complete.ESP
GameFile93=HELLUVA Balanced Creatures Addon.esp
GameFile94=HELLUVA Balanced TR addon.esp
GameFile95=Hilgya the Seamstress Expansion 1.esp
GameFile96=Hold it - COM addon.ESP
GameFile97=Hold it - MCA8 addon.esp
GameFile98=Hold it - NoM addon.ESP
GameFile99=Hold it - TR addon.ESP
GameFile100=Hold it - replacer.ESP
GameFile101=Holidays Across Tamriel - Vvardenfell.esp
GameFile102=Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp
GameFile103=Illuminated Order v1.0.esp
GameFile104=JAC_Jasmine.esp
GameFile105=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_2.0.esp
GameFile106=Khuul Expansion 1.4.esp
GameFile107=LGNPC Trib_Blood_Nerav.esp
GameFile108=LGNPC-s.esp
GameFile109=LGNPC_NoLore.esp
GameFile110=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
GameFile111=LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
GameFile112=MCA - TR Addon.esp
GameFile113=MCA - Vampire Realism Patch.esp
GameFile114=MCA__Animated_Morrowind__Expanded.esp
GameFile115=MC_food_wNOM.esp
GameFile116=MTC-CoMaddon.esp
GameFile117=MTC.esp
GameFile118=MWE_Base.esp
GameFile119=MWE_Blocking.esp
GameFile120=MWE_Combat.esp
GameFile121=MWE_Crime - Less Annoying Guards.esp
GameFile122=MWE_Crime - Stealing Bugfix.esp
GameFile123=MWE_Crime - Stealth.esp
GameFile124=MWE_Journal.esp
GameFile125=MWE_Writing.esp
GameFile126=MW_Adv_Required.esp
GameFile127=Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp
GameFile128=Morag Tong Expanded.esp
GameFile129=More Better Clothes.ESP
GameFile130=Morrowind Crafting 2-1.esp
GameFile131=Morrowind Crafting Equipment.esp
GameFile132=Mournhold Expanded COM NC.esp
GameFile133=NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
GameFile134=NOM3fix.esp
GameFile135=Nevena's Twin Lamps & Slave Hunters 1.5.esp
GameFile136=NoM 3.0.esp
GameFile137=NoM_CoM Compatibility Patch.esp
GameFile138=NoM_Creatures Loot Standard.esp
GameFile139=NoM_IO Compatibility Patch.esp
GameFile140=NoM_MC Compatibility Patch.esp
GameFile141=Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp
GameFile142=Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
GameFile143=Oluhan V1.13.esp
GameFile144=Optimized Omicron.ESP
GameFile145=P.R.E. v4.0.esp
GameFile146=PB_AStrangePlant.esp
GameFile147=POTD paintings.esp
GameFile148=Pelagiad Provisions 1.41.esp
GameFile149=Propylons_1.3.esp
GameFile150=Prostitution_v12EV.esp
GameFile151=Pursuit Enhanced.esp
GameFile152=Real_wildlife_2b Complete.esp
GameFile153=Reign of Fire v1.92BETA [Razhkul, Rev. Gluby].esp
GameFile154=Rincewind's_Luggage_1.2.esp
GameFile155=Rincewind's_Luggage_1.2_MWSE.esp
GameFile156=RoHT CoM Addon.esp
GameFile157=RoHT NoM v3 Addon.esp
GameFile158=RoHT TLSH Patch.esp
GameFile159=Romance_v37EV.esp
GameFile160=SOM_Indarys_Expanded_v20.esp
GameFile161=SSE_NOM.ESP
GameFile162=ST_Alchemy_Base_1.2.esp
GameFile163=Scout's Services 2.esp
GameFile164=Skooma Anonymous.esp
GameFile165=Sotha Sil Expanded.ESP
GameFile166=Sris_Alchemy_BM.esp
GameFile167=Stinkers 2.0 to 3.0 Upgrader.esp
GameFile168=Stinkers 3.0.esp
GameFile169=Suran Extended Family.esp
GameFile170=Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP
GameFile171=THTWG - Harder Version.esp
GameFile172=TLM - Ambient Light + Fog Update.esp
GameFile173=TLM - Complete.esp
GameFile174=TRIB_witchgirladvent1.esp
GameFile175=TR_Alpha.ESP
GameFile176=Tamriel Rebuilt Book Rotate.esp
GameFile177=Tealpanda's Alchemy Essentials.esp
GameFile178=Tel NechimMN.esp
GameFile179=Tel_Meskoa_Tel _Matouigius_1.2_EV.ESP
GameFile180=The Sable Dragon 1.7.esp
GameFile181=Thirsk Expanded Family.esp
GameFile182=Tribun_Laura_3_0.esp
GameFile183=Tribunal Order.ESP
GameFile184=UFR_v3dot2.esp
GameFile185=UFR_v3dot2_Patch.esp
GameFile186=UL_3.3_MWSE_Add-on.esp
GameFile187=UL_3.3_RoHT_1.52_Add-on.esp
GameFile188=UL_3.3_TR_14.08_Add-on.esp
GameFile189=UL_BookJackets_Add-on.esp
GameFile190=UL_Chess_Add-on.esp
GameFile191=UL_CoM_Add-on.esp
GameFile192=UL_TLM_Ambiance.esp
GameFile193=UL_WeaponRotate_Addon.esp
GameFile194=Uvirith's Legacy Book Jackets Add-on.esp
GameFile195=Uvirith's Legacy CoM Add-on.esp
GameFile196=Uvirith's Legacy_3.33.esp
GameFile197=Vampire Realism II - BL Patch.esp
GameFile198=Vampire Realism II - BM Add-On.esp
GameFile199=Vampire Realism II - TB Add-On.esp
GameFile200=Vampire Realism II - VE Patch.esp
GameFile201=Vampire Realism II - VH Patch.esp
GameFile202=Vampire Realism II.esp
GameFile203=Vampire_Embrace.esp
GameFile204=Vampiric Hunger - BL.esp
GameFile205=Vampiric Hunger - SU.esp
GameFile206=Vampiric Hunger Base.esp
GameFile207=Vampiric Hunger Extended.esp
GameFile208=Village of Mora Uvirith v1.2.esp
GameFile209=Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp
GameFile210=Vivic Market CoM.esp
GameFile211=Vvardenfell Diversified.ESP
GameFile212=Vvardenfell Druglord.esp
GameFile213=Weapon Rotate - Bloodmoon.esp
GameFile214=Weapon Rotate - Tribunal.esp
GameFile215=Weapon Rotate - Vendors.esp
GameFile216=Welcome to the Arena! v6.6.esp
GameFile217=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
GameFile218=Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
GameFile219=Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
GameFile220=Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
GameFile221=Windows Glow.esp
GameFile222=Z4K_Giants_AddToLev_Patch.esp
GameFile223=ab01Wilderness2.1patch.esp
GameFile224=abotGuars.esp
GameFile225=abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
GameFile226=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
GameFile227=abotWindowsGlow.esp
GameFile228=abotWindowsGlowTR.esp
GameFile229=ale_clothing_v0.esp
GameFile230=ale_clothing_v1.esp
GameFile231=cloakanddagger.esp
GameFile232=constance1_0.esp
GameFile233=horationpcenhanced12-ve.esp
GameFile234=indarys inside.esp
GameFile235=laura_vembrace_fix.esp
GameFile236=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
GameFile237=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_JulanAddon.esp
GameFile238=mel_teleportPlugin_1_3_Patches.esp
GameFile239=night gallery.esp
GameFile240=t_lostheir.esp

Praise it, critique it, slam it. I used mlox and wrye mash (Thank the stars for them), but I somehow feel that it could be improved slightly. If you see pointless mods due to redundancy, please let me know.

P.S. Morrowind for life.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:18 am

Your game is so heavily modified it barely resembles Morrowind. Its like plastic surgery that's gone bad. When you say "Morrowind for Life" I feel as if Morrowind died 10 years ago, and you're keeping it alive with animal organs.

All jokes aside though.

I'm amazed you have that many mods working harmoniously together. A congratulations are in order.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:29 am

Thanks, Im very proud of this.

Initially I took offense, but you're right. Im a firm believer in lore and yet I'm using GAC and some others that really make your point. Even though I'm Telvanni through and through, I added some hlaalu and redoran stuff just incase someone else decides to play on my rig. Same with Vampirism: Never been a vamp, and don't plan on it. As soon as the Rotate apps are finished doing there thing, Im going to pack this Install up and burn it onto 3 DVDs (it totals 11.6 gigs) and store it for prosperity.

- PaxRedoran and LGNPC TelUvirith (to my understanding) need to speak to Duke Dren, but ROHT has us kill him. But the ROHT Nevana patch is said to move his dialogue to the Dutchess. So I wonder if the Nevana patch corrects the conflict between LGNPC and ROHT...

- Has anyone made a patch to let Jasmine companion not conflict with Romance mod and MCAs romance feature yet?

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:27 am

Sorta. I have a lot of pretty good mods but never did the graphic mod setup that I intended to this time around. I've been very proud in the past though. Once you do the research on how to mod properly and the work to get a huge mod setup that works well with zero to little crashes, its pretty damn satisfying.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:19 pm

I guess – and hope – that you rather mean posterity. :wink:

Also:

GameFile33=Animated Morrowind - Expanded - MCA_Patch.esp

GameFile34=Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp

GameFile35=Animated Morrowind II.esp

Isn't it better to use http://abitoftaste.altervista.org/morrowind/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=39&Itemid=50? Not sure as I'm returning to Morrowind after a long hiatus, but that was the version I chose.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:29 pm

Your list looks good to me, except for this:

GameFile167=Stinkers 2.0 to 3.0 Upgrader.esp
GameFile168=Stinkers 3.0.esp

Even version 3.0 is pretty glitchy, and requires thorough testing and editing. Check especially area near Balmora Bath house for land tears, and Aldruhn (there are some unintended edits to the neighboring houses, if I remember correctly). Scripts are also faulty, experiment with attribute buffs bathing gives to see if everything works properly. This is a good mod in principle though.

I would also merge something to free space for good quest mods.

Anyway, congratulations on assembling such huge list. I think it wasn't easy in the least.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:22 am

That's a lot of good mods you have in there. I'd suggest using https://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Tes3cmd#multipatch_-_Patches_problems,_merges_leveled_lists,_etc. feature to help with stability.

Also, if you're interested in load orders and discovering mods that other people are using, I'd suggest http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1471567-share-your-load-list-mod-discovery-thread-2/ I made a while ago. It hasn't been too active recently but there's a lot of good stuff in there (and the original thread as well).

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:31 am

A question on that: I'm currently using Wrye Mash's Mashed Lists.esp - is it recommended to use tes3cmd's Multipatch instead or are they equivalent?

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 3:03 pm

Use multipatch instead. It includes merged leveled lists as well as other fixes.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:03 pm

Right, thanks, will do.

» Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:16 pm

Thanks about animated merged. Dang, multipatch, using the ol' cmd lines really made me nostalgic... very satisfying to type "exit" rather than clicking the X at top right.

From what I read in posts and readme files, the stinkers upgrader was because of a conflict between UL and stinkers, but I'll rush over to the bathhouse and take a closer look. This next question is embarrasing: It seems that npcs arent turning to face me when they talk. They only slightly turn their head as if they cant stand to make eye contact. Has it always been this way, and perhaps I (shamefully) spent too much time in oblivion, or could it be a result of some head or facepack?