What is the common Argonian way of thinking?

Post » Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:43 am

So, in Skyrim, I chose to make an An-Xileel agent as my third character. He kind of goes around fighting daedra, vampires, the dark brotherhood, beandits especially, all those nasties. However, sometimes I find myself with an enemy begging for his life, about to flee from combat in fear of my wrath. Another time I was fighting bandits in a cave. Silently killed the guards, and killed the leader. But on the way, I passed two sleeping bandits. I knew that, one wrong move, and these guys wake up, making things more complicated. However, as long as I'm cautious, these fools don't have to die. Basically, I choose the nice path and spare these people if I can, but is that what my Argonian would really do? Would he only blunt his blade on those who can still fight back, or would he just kill everyone? I have no idea how 'Argonian Mercy' works, I have no idea what their moral code, and you know why? Cause there so mysterious, even to the people who play Saxhleel. How am I expected to build a characters way of thinking if I have practically nothing to figure out how he would have been raised to think? How his parents would have developed his conscience? My guy, who's name is Shalon-Tra by the way, is supposed to have disturbing memories of the Accession War, seeing it as nothing but a slaughter. But is that just morally acceptable all throughout Argonian society?; the murder of thousands of innocent families just for revenge?

I'll be glad to hear your info and/or opinions on this on this.

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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:58 pm

I'm not sure the "common Argonian way of thinking" applies to the An-Xileel. The An-Xileel are more of an extremist/nationalist group, centered around a rogue Hist tree who is not connected to the others.

Aside from that, I think Argonians that have left Black Marsh aren't considered to be exactly "common", and probably show more individuality as they're separated from the Hist hive-mind (they can still hear the Hist, but the connection wanes the longer they're away).
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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:46 am

Mmm, I feel a 'yes and no' idea on your answer. I'd say most of any race that goes outside their borders are not considered "common" anyway. But that doesn't really matter.

Within the swamps, it may have been due to Mere-Glim being largely Imperialized, but I'd gander to say the Saxhleel are largely individuals also, but more tied to their tribe which isn't all that different in terms of behavior than most other races in general. The influence of the Hist may only appear when something is going to hit the fan, which is why even outside of Black Marsh, many of the Saxhleel left the provinces they lived in to go to Black Marsh during the Oblivion Crisis. The CoC, if the CoC was a Saxhleel, probably never received the call due to being allowed to become the CoC or what have you. Maybe the same deal with Hist Soul Recycling with Morrowind and Skyrim.

As for the OP's question...I don't think it really matters. If you were to be An-Xileel, you wouldn't stray out of Black Marsh to begin with, unless it was to make war on Morrowind. But in terms of a general Saxhleel outlook, you're likely don't bother with the concept of 'honor.' From what I understand, the Saxhleel will largely use the cover of the swamp and what it provides to its advantage. So this means they probably don't see the use of poison or stealth killing as dishonorable. Furthermore, Jel doesn't really have past-present-future tenses, as in their macroview, an event has transpired already. So if you wish to spare someone, you probably know they'll be dead or that it just doesn't matter. Otherwise, I'd say they still experience emotions and general concepts like most other races, as they were designed to be. Only thing is, they may not be able to convey that as noticeably as other races, and have a slightly different cultural mind of things.

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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:34 pm

The An-Xileel are known to have spies throughout all of Tamriel.

I'd imagine they'd be distrusting of other races,although extremely good at masking it, and hateful of other Argonians who seems to have forsaken Black Marsh and the Hist, which I assume would be nearly every "cyrodiilized" Argonian we run into in Skyrim or Oblivion.

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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:28 pm

As far as I know, the Hist are perfectly capable of controlling every Argonian, regardless of whether that Argonian is An-Xileel or not, but even so I don't think that they do so unless the feel threatened, for example in times of war.

However, since we know so little about the Hist, isn't it entirely possibly that they are subconsciously affecting the minds of all Argonians? Nothing direct, just... telepathic suggestions, if you will.

I like to think so.

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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:57 am

The Argonians just want peace and not interference in their land by any humans or elves!Argonians are actually a hospitable and friendly race who would die for everyone who call friend!But they can actually hard trust someone because of what they have passed and they are actually enemeis of the dark elves because of the awful treatment the dunmer have done to the argonians! the Argonians worship the hist huge trees and infact the first inhabitants of tamriel!the Argonians say that it was in fact the hist that gave birth to them and so they depend to the hist and the hist depends on them!

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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:20 pm

I'm not convinced that Argonians actually have thoughts. They are little more than mindless beasts and should stay in their swamps.

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Post » Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:38 pm


Hmm... A few Argonians from 3E433 Cyrodiil may change your mind. I think I've read a book about an Argonian too and he showed some emotion and free will. I'm sure they aren't mindless. No idea why you think that.
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